Yeah you have to appreciate the scale of the enemy. We can't rely on old men to hand us a revolution. Bernie and Corbyn couldn't even defeat their own parties. Imagine being in charge of the entire government. The establishment would have went scorched earth and eradicated all traces of socialism.
I know it's pessimistic, but the realities of trying to hold together a revolution would have become terrifyingly apparent had they won. It wasn't the time. We weren't ready. But we're getting there.
He might become labour secretary. Maybe. Idk. It's a possibility if he's really loyal this time. A big ole' juicy carrot right there if he just runs a little faster to catch it.
Look at the so-called tolerant left trying to break up a friendship between Bernie and Joe the Rapist. You just want to inject toxicity into their mutually beneficial alliance which only benefits Joe the Rapist.
I reckon they don't care enough about the left to actually do so, but perhaps they'll put Bernie in there so they can use him as a shield for bad policy.
"Yeah we're repealing the minimum wage, it happened under Bernie's watch do so you have to like it"
Similar to using Obama to get libs to fiercely defend Romney-care.
That's dumb because it assumes the reason Bernie failed is because he is sinister on a personal level. In reality what seems most likely is that a long time ago he bought into the notion that entryism was the most viable means of taking power for the American left and since then he has been constrained by the logic of that approach (and who can blame him exactly? Every other approach has been basically a failure in the past several decades) . It's not like another "Bernie but not evil" could be more successful by doing the same thing but with pure motives or whatever.
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Yeah you have to appreciate the scale of the enemy. We can't rely on old men to hand us a revolution. Bernie and Corbyn couldn't even defeat their own parties. Imagine being in charge of the entire government. The establishment would have went scorched earth and eradicated all traces of socialism. I know it's pessimistic, but the realities of trying to hold together a revolution would have become terrifyingly apparent had they won. It wasn't the time. We weren't ready. But we're getting there.
He might become labour secretary. Maybe. Idk. It's a possibility if he's really loyal this time. A big ole' juicy carrot right there if he just runs a little faster to catch it.
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Look at the so-called tolerant left trying to break up a friendship between Bernie and Joe the Rapist. You just want to inject toxicity into their mutually beneficial alliance which only benefits Joe the Rapist.
I reckon they don't care enough about the left to actually do so, but perhaps they'll put Bernie in there so they can use him as a shield for bad policy.
"Yeah we're repealing the minimum wage, it happened under Bernie's watch do so you have to like it"
Similar to using Obama to get libs to fiercely defend Romney-care.
did he fail? or did he succeed in what he was trying to do all along?
edit: reply to 👇 guy below, i think he's evil you're free to believe whatever you want
That's dumb because it assumes the reason Bernie failed is because he is sinister on a personal level. In reality what seems most likely is that a long time ago he bought into the notion that entryism was the most viable means of taking power for the American left and since then he has been constrained by the logic of that approach (and who can blame him exactly? Every other approach has been basically a failure in the past several decades) . It's not like another "Bernie but not evil" could be more successful by doing the same thing but with pure motives or whatever.
edit: reply to guy above: ok