and i’m not saying they might not have...

but we have this friend who was upset about my recent instagram stream that was pro communism and that i was ignorant because his family only got one bag of rice for his big family and they weren’t able to get a new house without dirt floors and a leaking roof... so they fled on a raft that took 3 days.

so without saying “lmao sounds like made up bullshit” how do i say, “well actually they were probably middle class and didn’t actually need this or that blah blah blah”

she also thinks since i’m privileged and didn’t experience what his family did that i should maybe not be communist? idk i want to radicalize them both, but since his literal parents are anti communist it might be hard.

  • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Shift the focus onto why Cuba was and is still materially poor (its pre-revolution agrarian plantation economy and all the horrors that went along with that, the ongoing embargo and economic warfare the US has waged against it, and the loss of its primary trading partner in the 90s), and how the impact of the Cuban communists has been to reduce that poverty and to mitigate the worst effects of it, to ensure that even when food is scarce people still have food, that they have healthcare and education, that even in rural areas people have housing when they didn't before the revolution.

    People definitely emigrated from Cuba for economic reasons just as countless more people emigrated from capitalist Latin American countries for economic reasons, but with Cuban immigrants the worst poverty they describe is shit that's normal for the worst areas in the US as well, whereas immigrants from capitalist Latin American countries are fleeing genocidal death squads trained by the US army, they're fleeing cartel violence (and the footsoldiers of the cartels are primarily former military who were trained by the US army), and they're fleeing poverty that's far worse than anything Cuba has faced since the revolution (except perhaps at the absolute worst times in the 90s).

    • PermaculturalMarxist [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      People definitely emigrated from Cuba for economic reasons just as countless more people emigrated from capitalist Latin American countries for economic reasons

      exactly, it's a complete misunderstanding of what actually happened to think that everyone who moved was a plantation owner with slaves or something and as a result it comes off as very out of touch, because it is. It's just that the people that moved to the US for those reasons didn't have the analysis to understand the cause of the plight is neo-imperialism, not some "party elites" siphoning off state funds while the country suffers (which is simply projection)