I've been watching a lot of philosophy tube, and some others, lately. And for the most part I really like them. However I've seen a bit of hate for them here. Am I missing something? Is criticism more directed at their the chunk of their fans who only pay lip service to the ideas they present or is actually a problem with the creators. Edit: Or maybe I miss read everything and this community doesn't have a problem with them at all. Edit 2: Thanks for the responses and other places to look. Like I said I've mostly been watching philosophy tube (who maybe subtly calls for violent uprising but he still does) and just dipping my toes into the others, looks like I'll skip most of the other channels. As far as being radicalized I'm there already, I just really like the presentation of what I've watched so far. And its given me something to send to my brother who has been mildly interested but is pretty damn far from radical.

  • Moveslikegoldman [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Woah! I havent been on chapo since the reddit ban. Since when are people shittin on lindsey ellis? I get shitting on Vaush, his channel is "political" but i really dont get the hate Ellis gets. I mean sure she has some good takes and she is part of the left pipeline, but her channel is not dedicated to inform leftist opinions. She makes video essays on movies! Holy shit give the girl some space. Even Hbomb in some way. They are not entitled to establish the kind of leftism you guys want. They are yt creators who happen to hold some of the same belief as "true leftists" but they just talk about media and things they like. Dont get it twisted. And they also are quite useful in pulling people farther left. Just dont go judging them because they havent sworn loyalty to the juche or some other bullshit. Whats next, shitting on BDG because he didnt link the fall of reach to the failures of capitalism enough? Hating on jenny nicholson because she stans kylo ren? I dunno?

    • hauntologist [comrade/them,he/him]
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      First of all, leftists and especially chapo posters have always shit on libs, rightly so. This is nothing new and it's really weird that you're acting like it is. Lindsay Ellis is most certainly a lib, I doubt she would argue that she isn't. QED. Secondly, the reason she has come up here recently is because of shitty, dare I say cringy tweets such as one noted here. You might notice she is calling out another breadtuber Shaun, who most of us here were very much in agreement with. Thirdly, I don't think you know what "entitled" means. No one here is getting anything twisted - it's not like anyone criticizing her isn't already fully aware of anything you said

      Holy shit give the girl some space

      The fuck you think we're doing to prevent her form having space? You implying we shouldn't point out and discuss it when someone with influence says some really shitty things? Your account is completely new and your first post is blatant concern trolling. Doesn't look good.

      • Moveslikegoldman [he/him]
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        Calling out shaun is kinda bad indeed, hes one of the best. Isnt kinda weird to shit on someone who is sometime wrong instead of people who are always wrong. I dont think cannibalizing the left pipeline is the best way to go and very basic, entry level media analyses are part of that. People rarely find Shaun or NonCompete by chance.

        I was maybe hyperbolic and i dont think there's targeted harassement against her coming from the left (god i hope there isnt), but it really caught me by surprise to see something of a concensus on someone who barely has anything related to political content.

        Also fuck you. Going trough posts history what a fucking nerd.