Like, okay, Biden sucks, we still have work to do, and, fuck, it might make some of that work harder instead of easier.

And in four years, if/when things only get worse, the general electorate might unite around a Bernie blessed demsoc, but what's more likely, imo is they also might elect a much much more competent fascist.

So, like, until then, are we just back to normal run of the mill neoliberalism again? Like a four year long eye of the storm?

Or are we still in the zone?

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    4 years ago

    We're going to be in the zone forever. Climate change is so much worse than anyone is admitting, we're going to see more macro-scale extreme weather events every year. Biden is going to pump reckless austerity, the Q cult's influence is going to be unpredictable but definitely horrible, the Democrats have been dragged further right than ever and are signalling that their electoral strategy for the next four years is a suicide charge in to the thorned embrace of the fascist right. Even with the senate Biden would just legitimize and normalize all of Trump's destabilizing bullshit. Evictions and covid and unemployment and debt slavery are all just going to snowball and get worse and worse.

    This is not a victory. We have won nothing. At least Trump was childish and difficult to work with, Biden is already pushing Obama's "reach across the aisle" bullshit and talking about Republican's in the cabinet. We're going to have all the bad shit Trump did, but run by slightly more competent devils.

    • OhWell [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      100% agree with this. It was not a victory at all. Dems won the white house, but made no gains in the senate and even lost seats in the house. All this is going to set up for a scenario similar to Obama's second term where Biden will just be a lame duck president unable to really do anything besides pass austerity and tax us.

      The Democrats have reinvented themselves as the college educated, smug rich people's party under Biden. Exit polls were pretty damning in evidence of this, as the GOP is starting to really take in working class and lower income households for a new voter-base. Trump got the most POC votes of a Republican candidate since the 1950s, and instead of realizing that this is a problem, the Democrats are just embracing their hidden xenophobic and whining about how 'stupid' those people are. This is scary, cause it means that the GOP is doing something right, and the next fascist can focus on wealth inequality and the class war - something that Biden is going to make 100X worse with his austerity.

      Trump was really a test run when you think about it. Back in 2016, it was like the GOP was testing the waters with him to see how far the American public would embrace fascism. In this past election, over 70 million people voted for him. That's a clear sign that we are close and getting there.

      Biden isn't going to fix shit. I predict in the next few years, new firebrand Republicans are going to start addressing wealth inequality and talking about the class war. When they start doing this, the Democratic party is 100% fucked, cause they had so many chances in the past 4 years to embrace even mild reforms and refused. They wanted to become the Bush era Republican party and they got their wish with Biden. Liberal media will start calling people racist any time they say the words 'working class' cause they have used ID-POL to create this myth that there is only the "white working class", however exit polls have proved that ID-POL is not working and now it's in the Republicans hands to run a competent fascist in the future and win big.

      I think the Q cult is going to evolve into something even more dangerous and the next reactionary far right movement is going to be a lot more desperate as a result of the depression we're going to be in.

    • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
      ·
      4 years ago

      We’re going to have all the bad shit Trump did, but run by slightly more competent devils.

      We might get minor movement around the margins but none of the big problems we face will be remotely addressed.

    • JayTwo [any]
      hexagon
      ·
      4 years ago

      By the zone, I mean a sort of social hypernormalization dealio. Like how Trump made the world weird, then we just got used to the weirdness.

      We're still fucked, but this feels like it's gonna gonna be a four year eye of the storm style reprieve from the hypernormalization, long enough for many to become complacent, until we're eventually thrown back into far worse insanity.

      I definitely wonder what's gonna happen with Qanon in the meantime, though. Especially as there's now Qanon congresspeople.