My other favorite one is that apparently all 20,000 of you are Russian trolls.
Absolutely not. That has never been how it works. You start with plants, yes. You make jokes and create a clique that seems fun with jokes and in-culture. This helps you pick up actual people in your target audience and true believers, even if you haven't given them really anything concrete to believe in yet. (We are here.) And then you start pushing your main points while stifling dissent.
The actual points I've seen come out are @ReadFanon above with the Putin images and... not much else. It's mostly "we LGBT" and vague "communism" (with no actual points) and "go read more". It's mostly dogpiling with no actual substance. Until you get to anti-NATO shit of course.
There's a ton to criticize about the West, but generally Russia and China aren't doing those things any better. Anti-NATO is a weird stance and really only serves one purpose.
Anti-NATO is quite literally the standard leftist position outside of America and Europe, so for the majority of leftists in the world. If you, you know, actually read some leftist theory and history like we keep telling you to do, you would understand that.
But you don't. There are comprehensive theory lists on c/theory and c/marxism but those generally aren't topics that people come in to argue with hexbear about, even though people are always down to clown in that regard, we have had rounds and rounds of debates dedicated to value theory and the elimination of the value form, you just don't look for that, have seen that, and they are less common now that federation has occured. The people here are dedicated anti-sectarian leftists, and it's your choice not to see that.
You're completely ignorant about this instance and are creating windmills to tilt at. You are welcome to tilt at the instance, but pretending that it is something it is not and inventing your own headcanon is legitimately sad.
No reason to oppose NATO ev- wait, how many literal card carrying nazis helped found the organization? That’s crazy! But since theres no reason anyone besides Russian trolls would oppose giving the reins of your unaccountable global military arm of anticommunism to unrepentant, unpunished genocidal war criminals I guess we should just be quiet.
Honestly this comes off like you aren’t really reading anything here. If you have questions about communism or about people’s stances here you can just ask and they’ll explain in an absurd amount of detail. If you choose to disagree that’s fine, but pretending people here espouse a “vague” notion of communism, or are pretending to be queer is so absurd it ventures deep into offensive territory.
There's a ton to criticize about the West, but generally Russia and China aren't doing those things any better. Anti-NATO is a weird stance and really only serves one purpose.
I don't remember russia or china couping almost the entire planet to replace them with fascist military juntas
when have russia and china replaced south american democratically elected left leaning leaders with murderous far right dictators? when have they dropped depleted uranium onto iraq, killing thousands and causing birth defects in newborn children? let me know
My other favorite one is that apparently all 20,000 of you are Russian trolls.
I can barely get 4 friends together at any given time for DND but somehow you guys can keep this collective larp going for 3 years.
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Absolutely not. That has never been how it works. You start with plants, yes. You make jokes and create a clique that seems fun with jokes and in-culture. This helps you pick up actual people in your target audience and true believers, even if you haven't given them really anything concrete to believe in yet. (We are here.) And then you start pushing your main points while stifling dissent.
The actual points I've seen come out are @ReadFanon above with the Putin images and... not much else. It's mostly "we LGBT" and vague "communism" (with no actual points) and "go read more". It's mostly dogpiling with no actual substance. Until you get to anti-NATO shit of course.
There's a ton to criticize about the West, but generally Russia and China aren't doing those things any better. Anti-NATO is a weird stance and really only serves one purpose.
Is that another new emoji?
Added yesterday
Anti-NATO is quite literally the standard leftist position outside of America and Europe, so for the majority of leftists in the world. If you, you know, actually read some leftist theory and history like we keep telling you to do, you would understand that.
But you don't. There are comprehensive theory lists on c/theory and c/marxism but those generally aren't topics that people come in to argue with hexbear about, even though people are always down to clown in that regard, we have had rounds and rounds of debates dedicated to value theory and the elimination of the value form, you just don't look for that, have seen that, and they are less common now that federation has occured. The people here are dedicated anti-sectarian leftists, and it's your choice not to see that.
You're completely ignorant about this instance and are creating windmills to tilt at. You are welcome to tilt at the instance, but pretending that it is something it is not and inventing your own headcanon is legitimately sad.
anti-nato has been the standard leftist stance for the last 40 years
No reason to oppose NATO ev- wait, how many literal card carrying nazis helped found the organization? That’s crazy! But since theres no reason anyone besides Russian trolls would oppose giving the reins of your unaccountable global military arm of anticommunism to unrepentant, unpunished genocidal war criminals I guess we should just be quiet.
Huh? Did you scroll for 3 seconds through !games@hexbear.net or something?
Yeah this one is baffling (although pretending people here are pretending to be queer is far more offensive that anything else)
go read more
To Kill a Nation: The Attack on Yugoslavia
fuck NATO
in the one thread you've ever looked at on this site.
Honestly this comes off like you aren’t really reading anything here. If you have questions about communism or about people’s stances here you can just ask and they’ll explain in an absurd amount of detail. If you choose to disagree that’s fine, but pretending people here espouse a “vague” notion of communism, or are pretending to be queer is so absurd it ventures deep into offensive territory.
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Hell yeah dude
Preventing nuclear armageddon, yes.
yeah I remember just last week when the USA pulled hundreds of millions out of poverty and laid 40,000 km of high-speed rail tracks
I don't remember russia or china couping almost the entire planet to replace them with fascist military juntas
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when have russia and china replaced south american democratically elected left leaning leaders with murderous far right dictators? when have they dropped depleted uranium onto iraq, killing thousands and causing birth defects in newborn children? let me know
Anti-NATO is a foundational stance for any actual leftist, sorry sweaty. Always has been