• Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    It's got to be some kind of projection when they can't fathom people being pro LGBT rights without pretending.

    • buckykat [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      Libs literally can't believe that anyone could ever be to their left so anyone who claims to must be a Russian far right troll

    • Yurt_Owl
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      1 year ago

      It is. Our ideology includes a direct criticism of liberalism so they feel attacked and instead of looking inward will instead claim of us the very things they are doing. Defense mechanism of people who have spent their lives thinking they are correct in everything they say and do.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        No you see, liberals are the GOOD GUYS and anyone who attacks liberals is therefore the BAD GUYS.

        The problem is that they've been given a child's interpretation of the world and everything in american culture reinforces this whether it's capeshit or videogames.

        Also liberal is the left, and there is nothing to the left of liberal. Everything else is the far right. Especially communists who are the real fascists.

        I'm gonna go wash my hands after writing that.

    • DroneRights [it/its]
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      1 year ago

      Hey, that happened to me here. When I joined Hexbear, people called me a troll because they couldn't imagine I actually supported dronegender rights

  • ghostOfRoux();@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    My other favorite one is that apparently all 20,000 of you are Russian trolls.

    I can barely get 4 friends together at any given time for DND but somehow you guys can keep this collective larp going for 3 years.

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    • Serinus@lemmy.ml
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      1 year ago

      My other favorite one is that apparently all 20,000 of you are Russian trolls.

      Absolutely not. That has never been how it works. You start with plants, yes. You make jokes and create a clique that seems fun with jokes and in-culture. This helps you pick up actual people in your target audience and true believers, even if you haven't given them really anything concrete to believe in yet. (We are here.) And then you start pushing your main points while stifling dissent.

      The actual points I've seen come out are @ReadFanon above with the Putin images and... not much else. It's mostly "we LGBT" and vague "communism" (with no actual points) and "go read more". It's mostly dogpiling with no actual substance. Until you get to anti-NATO shit of course.

      There's a ton to criticize about the West, but generally Russia and China aren't doing those things any better. Anti-NATO is a weird stance and really only serves one purpose.

      • WhyEssEff [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        Anti-NATO is a weird stance

        farquaad-point you live in one of these countries international-community-1international-community-2

      • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        Anti-NATO is quite literally the standard leftist position outside of America and Europe, so for the majority of leftists in the world. If you, you know, actually read some leftist theory and history like we keep telling you to do, you would understand that.

        But you don't. There are comprehensive theory lists on c/theory and c/marxism but those generally aren't topics that people come in to argue with hexbear about, even though people are always down to clown in that regard, we have had rounds and rounds of debates dedicated to value theory and the elimination of the value form, you just don't look for that, have seen that, and they are less common now that federation has occured. The people here are dedicated anti-sectarian leftists, and it's your choice not to see that.

        You're completely ignorant about this instance and are creating windmills to tilt at. You are welcome to tilt at the instance, but pretending that it is something it is not and inventing your own headcanon is legitimately sad.

      • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Anti-NATO is a weird stance and really only serves one purpose.

        anti-nato has been the standard leftist stance for the last 40 years

      • Smeagolicious [they/them]
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        1 year ago

        No reason to oppose NATO ev- wait, how many literal card carrying nazis helped found the organization? That’s crazy! But since theres no reason anyone besides Russian trolls would oppose giving the reins of your unaccountable global military arm of anticommunism to unrepentant, unpunished genocidal war criminals I guess we should just be quiet.

        • Omegamint [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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          1 year ago

          Yeah this one is baffling (although pretending people here are pretending to be queer is far more offensive that anything else)

      • iie [they/them, he/him]
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        1 year ago

        the actual points I've seen come out

        in the one thread you've ever looked at on this site.

      • Omegamint [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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        1 year ago

        Honestly this comes off like you aren’t really reading anything here. If you have questions about communism or about people’s stances here you can just ask and they’ll explain in an absurd amount of detail. If you choose to disagree that’s fine, but pretending people here espouse a “vague” notion of communism, or are pretending to be queer is so absurd it ventures deep into offensive territory.

      • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        Anti-NATO is a weird stance and really only serves one purpose.

        Preventing nuclear armageddon, yes.

      • emizeko [they/them]
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        1 year ago

        There's a ton to criticize about the West, but generally Russia and China aren't doing those things any better.

        yeah I remember just last week when the USA pulled hundreds of millions out of poverty and laid 40,000 km of high-speed rail tracks

      • Catradora_Stalinism [she/her, comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        There's a ton to criticize about the West, but generally Russia and China aren't doing those things any better. Anti-NATO is a weird stance and really only serves one purpose.

        I don't remember russia or china couping almost the entire planet to replace them with fascist military juntas

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      • Waldoz53 [he/him, any]
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        1 year ago

        when have russia and china replaced south american democratically elected left leaning leaders with murderous far right dictators? when have they dropped depleted uranium onto iraq, killing thousands and causing birth defects in newborn children? let me know

      • RedDawn [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Anti-NATO is a foundational stance for any actual leftist, sorry sweaty. Always has been

  • kristina [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    liberals love shitting on minorities that arent propping up their imperialism and 'im the best person ever' self centeredness. liberals like this have handwaved our lgbt users as being not real dozens of times at this point, despite the popularity of socialism in the lgbt community.

  • ReadFanon [any, any]
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    1 year ago

    Pardon me while I go to my gay closet and put on my gay clothes so I can dress up and pretend to be a gay and post on Hexbear again.

    This is your brain on liberal "allyship"; they'll deny your GSRM minority status, strip you of it, and insult you based on it if you dare to disagree with them.

    I've legit had massive slapfights with libs and the "I'm very socialist-leaning" crowd over the

    Show
    queer Putin image and the
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    Trump kissing Putin image (which, sidebar, is also anti-communist and a product of cold war fearmongering over reds) because "it doesn't depict queer people in a negative light" on the justification that "it's only offensive to Trump and Putin!!"

    Except for the fact that they are using queer representation to vilify those figures. That's kind of a bad thing, no?

    Imagine if you depicted Putin or Trump as black and then tried to defend artistic blackface and maligning an oppressed group by claiming "it's totally cool and I'm way progressive because it's only designed to offend Putin and Trump. People who aren't racist wouldn't find the existence of black people offensive!!"

    Like, bruh... for real?

    You're sitting around with your internet buddies laughing at how disgusting and ridiculous queer Putin or gay Trump images are and you're going to tell me that it isn't casting queerness in a negative light and you're going to demand that I also perform in your mental gymnastics to believe you when you tell me that Putin and Trump are sitting on their hoards of wealth and power, like dragons in a fantasy story, and they're seething while looking in on your little shitposts on the internet? Get real.

    • tactical_trans_karen [she/her, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      they'll deny your GSRM minority status, strip you of it, and insult you based on it if you dare to disagree with them.

      biden-point If you don't vote for me, your not a real f*ggot Jack!! biden-rember

      Putin and Trump are sitting on their hoards of wealth and power, like dragons in a fantasy story, and they're seething while looking in on your little shitposts on the internet? Get real.

      This is the part that slays me about social media. The Tic Tac videos where chuds are seething about something and issuing a challenge to a nebulous "y'all"; saying some shit like they're not going to lay down and take their prostate exam. It's the same thing as libs trying to get le epic troll on drumf or Winnie the Pooh. Who the hell do these smooth brains think they're talking to? I'm scared you're right and they believe politics is run though reddit, and world leaders doom scroll all day and that's doing a politic.

      • ReadFanon [any, any]
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        1 year ago

        I feel like I've been shilling this idea on Hexbear since I signed up but, to rehash it once again:

        The terminally-liberal brain is so steeped in this reflexive (as in "a reflex", not as in "turning the concept inwards" - fuck I hate autoantonyms smh) equality that they take their own personal experiences and universalise them, completely whitewashing the fact that there are vastly different people, classes, cultures, worldviews etc.

        It's nice to think of everyone as ultimately equal, don't get me wrong, but when that idea gets overextended then it becomes "my (hegemonic) worldview and my experience of and relationship to the world is the same as everyone else's" it becomes toxic because it becomes a barrier to truly understanding something like intergenerational trauma or the effects of serious poverty or even just understanding that some cultures are more communally-minded than individualistic.

        This is clearly demonstrated by those r/ABoringDystopia posts of homeless people wearing VR headsets. Bruh, do you not spend time at home on leisure and escapism? Would you not want to engage in escapism if you were homeless? I get that you think you're special and you've done something unique in order to earn your station and that, if you were homeless, you'd pawn that VR headset and use your entrepreneurial spirit to bring yourself back to your current (earned) station but... that's not how homelessness works, buddy.

        Hence why they just assume that because they confer a special degree of importance to their little social media comments then therefore so would Xi Jinping and Putin, obviously.

        It's this feigned sort of overextended empathy which is ultimately chauvinistic in nature that ends up becoming a parody of itself.

        Edit: One essay that really shines a light on this attitude is To Hell With Good Intentions written by the anarchist Ivan Illich who delivered this speech at the dawn of the era of voluntourism.

        Libs just think that voluntourism is inherently beneficial and that they can just go somewhere and deliver a better way of living to the poor, backwards masses in underdeveloped/overexploited countries because their way of doing things is inherently superior and all that shit without a moment's consideration for what it means to be on the receiving end of voluntourism because "if my intentions for voluntourism are good and beneficial then the recipients will obviously receive this gratefully because they will also consider it to be good and beneficial" (except that's giving too much credit because I don't think people even go so far as to entertain the consideration for what recipients of voluntourists might possibly think, it's just dogmatically assumed that voluntourism = good. No question!)

        Meanwhile there's troubling reports that there are "orphanages" running in the developing world which are actually engaging in rampant child trafficking in order to lure in voluntourism bucks by promising life changing experiences™ and doing good for the world™ etc. by letting westerners spend a couple of weeks teaching the trafficked kids how to say a few english words and shit like that...

  • Lerios [hy/hym]
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    1 year ago

    yeah, that thing rightwingers love to do, immerse themselves in lgbt culture and talk about communism blob-no-thoughts

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  • Awoo [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    Unlike many people who talk shit about us and say utterly ridiculous things because they're ignorant liberals... This person is one of the wolves that knows full well what they're saying is not true.

  • GarfieldYaoi [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    In what way are we "far-right"?

    This is the only online community where I can freely admit to being Jewish, literally any other ideology would gladly see me lynched. We literally have amerikkka ukkk and yes, even russia-cool as emojis.

    HOW are we far-right? Because we realize we need to communicate to crackkkas in the only language those neanderthals understand?

    • ZapataCadabra [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I think they call us "far right" because they think we support Putin. Or maybe it's just the same "Red Fash" brainworms as reddit.

        • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          thinking the Russo-Ukrainian war is more nuanced than simply "russia evil" or even, God forbid, that NATO had a long term role provoking this war that goes back decades, makes us "far right." So does acknowledge Ukraine's nazi problem that goes back to WW2, and was deliberately leveraged and made worse by both British and American intelligence agencies. So does, in general, critizing the United States government, which as we all know is a progressive government that has never done LGBT people any wrong. 🙄

    • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      when you're a liberal, people who don't support Joe Biden are right wing fascists. also, socialists are fascists. antifa are definitely fascists. people who speak Russian: fascists. north Korean, Chinese, Vietnam, Cuba? all fascists.

      but people with literal fascists tattoos celebrating nazi collaborators and doing neo-nazi pogroms, while calling themselves Nazis: freedom fighters we must arm.

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    • silent_water [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      this is unfair to Neanderthals. by all accounts they took care of their sick communally and found ways to survive in fairly extreme environments. chad shit in comparison to these goons.

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    • ReadFanon [any, any]
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      1 year ago

      I might have been redacted and most likely would have been homeless if I came out as queer when I was a kid because my dad was violently queerphobic.

      I spent so much of my life faking being straight. Anyone who accuses me of faking being queer can go straight to the gulag.

      • GenderIsOpSec [she/her]
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        1 year ago
        spent 30 years of my life pretending to be a man, cw: vague mentions of self harm

        hurting myself in myriad of ways both physical and emotional, purposefully not doing things that would benefit me because i hated myself.

        yes, i love to be called "fake" because some fucking piece of dogshit, wonderbread-ass motherfucking liberal cannot imagine anyone to the left of them. oh i wish they would experience even a quarter of the actual reality a queer person faces in this hellworld. when the revolution comes i want to personally push people like this down a mineshaft

        • ReadFanon [any, any]
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          1 year ago

          You are so much more valuable than the throwaway words of some chud who doesn't know shit about what it's like to be queer and to face invalidation for their gender identity.

          This armchair expert on Hexbearians and being queer, who has done literally zero research before coming up with their opinions, can have their opinions discarded in the same amount of time that it took them to arrive at their conclusions because no investigation, no right to speak.

          I know it won't take away the impact from you but one thing that I gently remind myself of this question: Whose opinion matters more to me - the person that is important in my life or the person who is of no more importance than a random stranger passing in the street?

          I try to keep in mind that I should weigh people's opinions based on how important they are to me rather than doing the opposite.

    • Mokey [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      if putting homophobes and bigots in re-education camps is right wing then im right wing

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  • Erika3sis [she/her, xe/xem]
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    1 year ago

    Kathleen, there's no gays on Hexbear! You're confused again, you got the misconceptions up in that chimp-like brain you have. There's no gays on Hexbear. The Hexbears are flamboyant, Kathleen, but they're not gay. That's a thing the Blåhaj folks do have. The Hexbears are just singin' men and entertainin' men — they like to do a jig, is all they like to do, is a jig!

    Hæ? Why'd the Hexbears have the mandatory pronoun tags, then? — Well it's to bamboozle the rich liberal LGBTs into giving all their money to !mutual_aid@hexbear.net! That's it!