He was writing about the civil rights movement, and accurately analysed COINTELPRO and other government repression. The teacher thought it was unfair characterization. So yeah, highschool's are totally hubs of left wing indoctrination.

  • CellularArrest [any]
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    It's never too early to learn that being correct is not always "correct."

    • TomCotton [he/him]
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      I still get in hot water because I can't always self censor at work. I love American freedom

      • Shinji_Ikari [he/him]
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        I once made a joke about V-22's with a high up of my company since he survived both plane and helicopter crashes. He proceeded to explain he was neighbors with quite a few v-22 test pilots who didn't quite make it. I still have a job so hopefully he wasn't too offended....

        • AliceBToklas [she/her]
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          if they didn't want people making jokes about Ospreys they shouldn't have made the whole program a joke.

          • Shinji_Ikari [he/him]
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            I know right? It's not my fault the armed forces are fucking idiots with requisitioning and rather kill dozens of marines rather than admit they're wrong.

    • ConstipationNation [he/him]
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      I think at the end of the day reactionaries don't really care about truth, logic, or reason; all of their talking points are just propaganda designed to further their agenda. When right wing pundits complain about schools being Marxist indoctrination centers it doesn't really matter if schools teach Marxism or not, I think they just want to de-legitimize the school system because even though it is anti-communist there are aspects of a liberal arts education that contradict the reactionary world view.

      For example, I think for reactionaries even a white-washed version of history that teaches about Native genocide, slavery, the white reaction to the civil rights movement etc. but downplays the worst aspects and makes excuses for it is too much, they would rather that students just not learn about that stuff at all because there is a chance that students might question the version they were taught or decide to look into it further and discover the truth. So by attacking schools as "Marxist" they can pressure sympathetic school boards to rewrite the curriculum, convince parents to homeschool their kids, and so on and prevent more students from being taught anything that could threaten their worldview.

      And to add to that, it seems like the ruling class in general wants to move away from the liberal arts model of education and take stuff like the arts, humanities, social sciences, etc. out of schools in order to transition to an education system that focuses solely on skills and employment, so de-legitimizing the current education system helps to further that agenda also.

    • comi [he/him]
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      The school is effectively the first and most important propaganda tool for any state. By attacking and going after schools curriculum Kochs and ideologically aligned billionaires want to reframe all of it to their liking, to mold the generations to come in their image. Tech billionaires are just grifting for government contracts.

      Attacks are just a charade to get their people in/attract attention for local conservatives to get into school boards. It’s not a coincidence they were all libs at your institution, it’s a result of what 40 years (?) of such attacks and constant reframing to the right of acceptable positions.

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      I never really figured out the guy's personal politics, but I took a course about the privatization of Russian infrastructure after the collapse of the Soviet Union, and the whole thing was about the oligarchs who basically stole the nation's resources for their private gain.

      I got a pretty good grade, even with comparing that privatization with American private industry, which is "somehow" not that different.

      And I had a couple of openly communist professors, one of which came to ISO meetings regularly.

    • marxisthayaca [he/him,they/them]M
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      4 years ago

      It’s propaganda to view places of education as (a) deserving of austerity (b) with extreme doubt to ignore the things they do say that are correct.

    • HeckHound [he/him]
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      The first assignment my teacher gave us in AP US history was to write an essay defending the idea that the Civil War was over state’s rights to govern themselves and not slavery. What a shitty class that was.

      And I just remembered: At the beginning of the first class she introduced herself by silently walking into the classroom and writing “FBI” in giant letters on the board and then saying “FBI. Full. Blooded. Italian. That is everything you need to know about me.” And she bragged that she loved to debate her students because she never, ever lost a debate with them.

  • Jewish_Cuban [he/him,any]
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    Because of this post I wanted a chance to share an excerpt from the wonderful government class that I took in highschool.

    Overall view of socialism most times a state tries to impose socialism, individual liberty is eroded and poverty prevails Socialism as a system does not believe in private property rights, they don’t believe people should get ahead via hard work “They don’t want people to own the fruits of their labor”

    As you so rightfully pointed out in this post, our high schools do nothing but indoctrinate your children to accept communism.

    • TomCotton [he/him]
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      They don’t want people to own the fruits of their labor

      The classic socialism is when capitalism

      • nohaybanda [he/him]
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        It's even dumber than that. They view capital investment as the highest form of "labour".

        • Jewish_Cuban [he/him,any]
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          Yeah the teacher was a real libertarian crank.
          "State run socialism requires legalized theft and determines the winners and losers through taxation and wealth redistribution "

          You can tell he was extra smart since he said taxation is theft but with more words. Great "notes" that we had to write.

  • Melon [she/her,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    I got marked down points for drawing a hammer and sickle symbol on a poster I had to do about labor rights in high school. I wasn't even a communist then and I thought that was fucked up bias.

  • GreyBear [none/use name]
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    Obejctively true statement btw. Hopefully he can stick to telling the truth and not feel like he is forced to self-censor

  • Cummunism [they/them, he/him]
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    dipshits only say college does that to people, theyve literally never said it about high school. High school you learn shit that isn't even real about America, or just straight up propaganda.

    • ThisMachinePostsHog [they/them, he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I don’t think I’ve heard this specifically about high school, but I have heard it said about “public schools”, which would include elementary, middle school and high school.

  • marxisthayaca [he/him,they/them]M
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    4 years ago

    it’s wild, cause I’ve always had professors and even teachers tell me that you can claim anything as long as you back it up with evidence. It’d only require citing a few sources to make this point.

    • TomCotton [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      That is in fact what all halfway decent teachers out professors will do