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  • socialist [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    They wouldnt be such shit hole like the ussr was

    • volkvulture [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      nah, USSR was actually very livable for average people lol

      far better than many places in former USSR even today

      https://youtu.be/ExHCAjRsZhA

      • socialist [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        the us and the niderb russia are also very livable for the average people

        • volkvulture [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          not really lol

          average household wealth in the US has decreased since 1989

          real average wages purchase less now than they have in 50 years in the US

          Russia's human development is only now reclaiming ground it lost since the fall of USSR, and still things like education and healthcare are unaffordable in Russia today, and both were free for everyone during Soviet times. These things remain totally unaffordable for average people in USA

          you're way off lol

          • socialist [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            Why do you keep replying when i dont give shit about you defending the ussr it killed the whole global socialist movement as quickly as it inspired it

              • socialist [she/her]
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                4 years ago

                Keep jerking of assad and lukashenko they will surely bring socialism

                • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                  4 years ago

                  keep attacking strawmen, that will surely create a global anti-work "zone" where prosperity flows from dry streambeds & progress is achieved without trying/failing

                  • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
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                    4 years ago

                    Like I'm mostly with you here but you doing this "antiwork" dig is uncomfortable for me because like, there are ableist implications to that that I really don't like. I'm "antiwork" because working as an autistic person has basically already drained me of the will to do any work again. And I'd hope that employment under a modern socialist system would be so fundamentally different that it wouldn't be "work" anymore. The fact that many abled/NT MLs don't seem to have a will to establish such a thing is probably my biggest issue with them. For me to believe that ML socialism would make a world that would like, actually be better for me in a fundamental way, I have to believe that employment under their system wouldn't be anything like it is under capitalism. Because sitting on my ass for three years contributing nothing doesn't make me happy either, but I'm too drained and traumatized by past experiences to go back to work.