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Love seeing Clinton and Blair’s former strategist be such a fucker

“Mr. Biden’s smaller margin of victory at the top of the ticket. House Democrats, despite a strong advantage on health care, owe their problems to associations with a range of unpopular issues from defunding the police to raising taxes, ending fracking and opening up borders.“

  • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    We ran a Republican as president and while a handful of Republicans voted for him, down ticket they voted Republican! What could explain this!?

    • Blarglefargle [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if Dems pull back on their language about abortion snd trans rights in the next 3 years. It’s the only way to truly appeal to the centrist vote they so crave.

      • grey_wolf_whenever [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I think abortion will be a language only issue, keep it federally legal but don't expand the ability to get one (that would be socialism) so itll still be defacto impossible to get one is many places. Trans issues is easy to hold onto for them, they'll just find a trans democrat with a career to point to. BLM is getting tossed overboard before either.

        • Blarglefargle [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          BLM is already been tossed aside and will be the née thing they point to die why they loses every election abortion they will go with it’s up to states or some BS. Or go back to the language of the Gore campaign.

      • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Quite possibly.

        The only reason I think they'll keep trying to play both sides, instead of just going all the way and forming a single Republican Party full of all the ghouls and Republican leaders we saw at their conference this year, is that they'll be compelled to keep the grift going in order to chase ever last cent.

        They could only be a more destructive force if they actually believed in anything.

      • OhWell [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        They'll never do that. Identity politics and empty platitudes are the only two things that Democrats have to offer anymore. They'll be screaming that they recognize trans rights and to protect abortion, you need to keep voting blue no matter who.

        They've managed to completely re-invent their party as the smug, college educated rich people's party. They managed to get all those middle class and rich household votes that they wanted so badly. That was the goal with Biden. They have moved as far to the right as they possibly could by running a candidate who is just barely a Democrat at all. But Dems have been slowly becoming this kind of party since the days of Clinton. It was the "third way" Dems like Bill Clinton and Joe Biden where the party moved away from labor and worker's rights and embraced hardcore neoliberalism.

        The thing with Biden is that he really ran on nothing except "not Trump" and they just barely won the presidency while squandering the Senate and losing seats in the House. The GOP is starting to pick up lower income and working class voters in the biggest margins they've had in decades. Trump got the most POC votes of a Republican candidate since the 1950s. This should be enough to tell anyone that identity politics is bullshit and no longer working. People are voting based on their class level and the problem for Democrats is, they've truly gotten to the point where Republicans attacks on them ring true to people. The GOP attacks them for being out of touch with the everyman and it rings true cause the Dems don't even hide their contempt for the poor anymore. People are no longer falling for the empty platitudes and want nothing to do with identity politics.

        Biden might very well destroy the Democratic party. So far he has proposed NOTHING to fix the recession and the unemployment is already at record highs to the point it's going to become a second great depression. The death toll of COVID is only going to double, if not triple under him. I see no way this turns out good for Dems down the road. There absolutely is going to be a massive backlash to his austerity, and it won't matter how much ID-POL bullshit the Dems shove at us, it's just not going to work.

  • RalphGrenader [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    "Unpopular opinions like giving people money during the pandemic and denying landlords their right of the first night."

  • volkvulture [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Dems don't want power, they just want to disrupt & brow beat & confound any nascent left... that is their only purpose

    • Blarglefargle [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Remember this is the fucker who ran Hillary’s 08 campaign and approved the “America doesn't want government healthcare” message she used.

      The fucker is admitting that people want shit but is ok with it once it becomes mainstream.

  • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    owe their problems to associations with a range of unpopular issues from defunding the police

    James Carville said this much on MSNBC (it was on at a relative's house, I swear!) a day or two after the election. They didn't even wait this long.

  • cro [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    don't be a lib, share the archive.org link

    Link

      • cro [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        just go to archive.org and paste the link in the search bar, then choose one of the images in the calendar.

        • Funicio [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Doesn't ChaCha have a feature that lets you post an archive link automatically?

  • TheModerateTankie [any]
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    4 years ago

    Biden offered them nothing, and a lot of people didn't go for it? Hmm. Guess we gotta get more racist, lower wages, and take healthcare away from people.

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    4 years ago

    Ahh yes normal people just want to compromise with the fact that in thirty years most of the western US will perpetually be on fire and the east coast is going to move inland by a mile.

    For real though I kinda believe this article is correct just because without a working class politics people will have this nonsensical view of the world and only a socialist political apparatus can teach working class politics at a rate that will be necessary. Many of us had this conception that the working class would naturally gravitate towards left politics because of Bernie or something like that and it was idealistic. We must put in the work of building a socialist party, teaching the people, and organizing struggle to teach left politics.

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      4 years ago

      FUCKING THIS! People on here like to assume Americans will just magically get that leftist ideals (hell social democrat ideals) are not just possible but doable. Despite a lifetime of propaganda and BS saying otherwise.

      It’s why I get so pissed at people on here who refuse to volunteer with the DSA or purity test BS. We need to use EVERY resource to our advantage to make progress. That includes helping these progressive and social dem groups that have moved in to fill the void left by the Dems when they switched to focussing on suburbia. Hell how much of this country thought universal healthcare was evil until Obama’s shit plan? How many thought raising minimum wage was a poor dream!

  • hauntingspectre [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I mean, it's a WSJ editorial by a 3rd way ghoul. Not openly calling for banning unions is about as good as it gets with those.

  • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    rapidly approaching the point where the MSM should just be taken for the opposite of reality, i hate everything