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  • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
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    4 years ago

    "The base of our party is Black voters. We're listening to them." - some lib in the replies

    Lmao yeah the party currently blaming "Defund the Police" for their losses in the house is definitely listening to black voters.

      • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
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        Are you lost? In this community we encourage appealing to nonvoters by endorsing progressive policy that excites them, this includes the under 50's you're writing off as nonvoters. By saying the Democrats should be listening to over 50s primarily, you're encouraging the party to remain centrist liberal shitheads. The future of politics is the young, like... obviously? Becuase the older people are going to fucking die?

        Like I'm aware that a lot of older black people are conservative shitheads. Fuck them the same as any other conservative shithead.

        Also lol at "anarkiddies" in this context. Apparently police abolition is a anarchist policy only, cool to know that authlefts (for lack of a better term) don't care about minority lives and think police are good.

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            You should support policy that is good policy because its good policy, not so you can triangulate to win, liberal. Defunding the Police and replacing it with comprehensive social safety net and social workers is good policy.

              • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
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                Ah yes, incremental change, certainly a thing we as leftists support. I can't believe you have the nerve to call me a liberal over this. You're echoing literally every lib talking point about this.

                Also, re: the public not being with us: in exit polls 57% percent of people said they support BLM, 37% said they didn't.

                Also, you keep conflating voters with "the public". Currently most voters are over 50, and a fairly slim majority of black voters over 50 disagree with defunding the police (because they have been scaremongered to think it means something it doesn't, lol. There's other reasons for conservative older black people but thats an essay). But those under 50 should be discounted because why? Like, the tweet that started this doesn't even say "under 50" it says "under 23". "Under 50" is a HUGE proportion of the population. You say there's no proof that nonvoters are more progressive (there is data that shows they are excited by bold policy but whatever), but here we see that the younger you are the more likely you are to support defunding the police, especially if you're black. So you're contradicting yourself.

                There's a conversation to be had over whether using "Defund the Police" as a slogan was a wise move or not, I guess. I sorta think its lib shit to worry about that but I guess I sorta see the point? But the policy behind the slogan is sound regardless.