She ain't an imperialist, donno what to tell you all.

https://twitter.com/GuillaumeLong/status/1329836004287639554

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    during Chavez’s leadership

    What's politically possible changes over the course of a decade.

    And again with the cop shit. Calling other leftists evil wrecks organizations, full stop. Hope online pissing matches feel good, because you're not ending imperialism, you're not getting healthcare, you're not agreeing on what fucking movie to watch if you turn disagreements about the best way forward into "you, personally, are evil."

    Try that shit out on anyone who's working through the process of radicalization and they'll look at you like you're one of those libertarians booing driver's licenses. Just an asshole living in another reality who's totally disinterested in getting anything done.

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      We are not an organization. I am not organizing with you.

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          You'd be surprised how infrequently "yes, the US does imperialism against Venezuela, but AOC commenting on it has 'no benefit'" comes up in organizing.

          In fact, it has never came up for me. Anti-Venezuelan sentiment has came up in my work exactly one time. A white woman crashed a Central American Task Force event to yell about how Chavez made her family eat trash.

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            I'm talking about finding one of the few people in this country who outright opposes capitalism, and then accusing them of irredeemable moral failings because of a disagreement over retail politics that has zero material impact either way.

            Again, I'm begging you, pull your head out of your ass and don't act like you're trying to sabotage whatever group you're in.

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              There's nothing "irredeemable" about this, and I don't care that you "oppose capitalism."

              You are arguing for social democratic candidates to go along with imperialism, because Americans may be rewarded with social democracy.

              You are arguing that people should not criticize social democrats supporting empire because it may damage this negotiation. That is supremely evil.

              You claim it is about "pragmatism", but it is not. If Cuba and Iran are any indicators, we are more likely to see sanctions dropped on Venezuela than we are to see Medicare for All implemented.

              I will support the actions of politicians when they support my political aims. I will criticize them when they don’t.

              This has been my line on AOC. This is the line you have been pushing back on. You don't want people criticizing AOC because you support her political calculations.

              Again, I’m begging you, pull your head out of your ass and don’t act like you’re trying to sabotage whatever group you’re in.

              Get over yourself. This is not an organization. We are not organizing. You got called something mean online for saying depraved shit.