Mariátegui said, "We are living in a period of total ideological war. Those who represent force for renewal cannot, either by accident or chance, unite or merge themselves with those who represent conservatism or regression. There is a historical abyss between them. They speak different languages and have a different understanding of history.”
"I think we should unite the like-minded, and not those who differ. We should bring together those whom history wants together. There should be solidarity between those of whom history requires solidarity. This, it seems to me, is the only possible alliance. A common understanding with a precise and effective sense of history.”
"I am a revolutionary. But I believe that men who think clearly and definitively will be able to understand and appreciate each other, even while struggling against each other. The political force with whom I will never reach an understanding is the other camp: mediocre reformism, domesticated reformism, hypocritical democracy."
We adhere to this. We are not sectarian, nor are there any actions on our part that indicate that. What no one can demand of us is that we march into the swamp. Lenin taught us: if someone decides they want to head into the swamp, they have the right to do so, but not to call upon us to go into the muck with them. Lenin said, we must follow our steep and difficult road all the way to the summit, or, in other words, we must face the enemy's fire, but we will continue to advance. We are not, then, sectarians or dogmatists. We are simply communists, and we adhere to those wise words of Mariátegui. And what's more, we demand that those who claim to follow Mariátegui really follow him, and that they prove it.
So what's your point? Nobody is claiming that the PRC is a utopia. It is a state born out of a prolitarian revolution, dealing with all of the contradictions of trying to improve the lives of it's people under a dominant global capitalist order.
Do you actually have a contribution to make theoretically or do you just like pointing out the obvious?
Gee I wonder what made those anarchists be anti-bolshevik. Surely they could've tried to build a free territory without interference from the red arm.... oh wait no they arent allowed to.
Comrade, you’ve been stuck in a psyop by the revisionists. Nobody here wants to hurt anarchists. Those that do are simply not real communists, they’re fascists trying to infiltrate and subvert our community.
That tankie-anarchist thing is the op. Real communists study the entire history and certainly don’t call themselves tankies and try to uphold Beria.
I’m eating Fuzzy Peaches right now and haven’t worn socks since March. Those “red fash” who have been bullying you are not me and are not most of the community. Go ask the wreckers what they think of Anarchists.
I mean. If anarchists are trying to act in the interests of the global bourgeoisie by trying to overthrow a prolitarian state that's already struggling against the forces of reaction, what happens happens.
Exactly. Best case, the PRC is working towards socialism and has a good argument that a communist state could not survive in current material conditions.
Worst case, they are a social democratic state opposed to US hegemony.
Either way, why would anyone who is on the left be supporting what is clearly a build up to a new cold war?
Exactly. Plus people act like there's been no changes to Chinese politics over the last 30 years, even though Hu Jintao and Xi have both reasserted the authority of the party over business interests and, particularly over the last 10 years, embarked on a campaign to root out corruption of party officials with ties to business interests.
Would you be surprised to learn that the same revisionism and misunderstanding of the materialist dialectic that lead the Soviets to ruin (and conflict with the anarchists, who are absolutely comrades) now carries on in their orgs and is not only tolerated but promoted by the state?
That’s what these official orgs in the West are. They’re the revisionists that survived the Sino-Soviet split by being the groups that stood behind Khrushchev and liberalization. They have a very broken ideology, and still create antagonistic conflicts between comrades on the left.
Don’t trust the “tankies”, the real far left in the West are not and have never been artless, joyless internet fash pushing a stale 1950s version of reactionary “Marxist-Leninism”. The real far left are artists, postmodernists, critical theorists, and Anarcho-Maoist revolutionaries.
IDK. There's some trots, anarchists and ultras fanning the flames of neo-cold war propaganda right now. Kind of hard to "unify" when that's the case.
Doesn't really mean anything online anyway lol.
Mariátegui said, "We are living in a period of total ideological war. Those who represent force for renewal cannot, either by accident or chance, unite or merge themselves with those who represent conservatism or regression. There is a historical abyss between them. They speak different languages and have a different understanding of history.”
"I think we should unite the like-minded, and not those who differ. We should bring together those whom history wants together. There should be solidarity between those of whom history requires solidarity. This, it seems to me, is the only possible alliance. A common understanding with a precise and effective sense of history.”
"I am a revolutionary. But I believe that men who think clearly and definitively will be able to understand and appreciate each other, even while struggling against each other. The political force with whom I will never reach an understanding is the other camp: mediocre reformism, domesticated reformism, hypocritical democracy."
We adhere to this. We are not sectarian, nor are there any actions on our part that indicate that. What no one can demand of us is that we march into the swamp. Lenin taught us: if someone decides they want to head into the swamp, they have the right to do so, but not to call upon us to go into the muck with them. Lenin said, we must follow our steep and difficult road all the way to the summit, or, in other words, we must face the enemy's fire, but we will continue to advance. We are not, then, sectarians or dogmatists. We are simply communists, and we adhere to those wise words of Mariátegui. And what's more, we demand that those who claim to follow Mariátegui really follow him, and that they prove it.
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It's a police state only in the sense that all states are police states lol. That's the fundamental nature of a state
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Do you have an example of a modern non-police state?
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So what's your point? Nobody is claiming that the PRC is a utopia. It is a state born out of a prolitarian revolution, dealing with all of the contradictions of trying to improve the lives of it's people under a dominant global capitalist order.
Do you actually have a contribution to make theoretically or do you just like pointing out the obvious?
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You think all it takes is "demanding better"? Lol. Whatever.
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And the purity testing circlejerk continues.
But sure, lets just ignore the marxists that were the ones lining up anarchists against the wall no?
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Gee I wonder what made those anarchists be anti-bolshevik. Surely they could've tried to build a free territory without interference from the red arm.... oh wait no they arent allowed to.
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Comrade, you’ve been stuck in a psyop by the revisionists. Nobody here wants to hurt anarchists. Those that do are simply not real communists, they’re fascists trying to infiltrate and subvert our community.
That tankie-anarchist thing is the op. Real communists study the entire history and certainly don’t call themselves tankies and try to uphold Beria.
I’m eating Fuzzy Peaches right now and haven’t worn socks since March. Those “red fash” who have been bullying you are not me and are not most of the community. Go ask the wreckers what they think of Anarchists.
I mean. If anarchists are trying to act in the interests of the global bourgeoisie by trying to overthrow a prolitarian state that's already struggling against the forces of reaction, what happens happens.
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Exactly. Best case, the PRC is working towards socialism and has a good argument that a communist state could not survive in current material conditions.
Worst case, they are a social democratic state opposed to US hegemony.
Either way, why would anyone who is on the left be supporting what is clearly a build up to a new cold war?
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Exactly. Plus people act like there's been no changes to Chinese politics over the last 30 years, even though Hu Jintao and Xi have both reasserted the authority of the party over business interests and, particularly over the last 10 years, embarked on a campaign to root out corruption of party officials with ties to business interests.
Neither Hu Jintao or Xi Jinping are "Dengists."
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Would you be surprised to learn that the same revisionism and misunderstanding of the materialist dialectic that lead the Soviets to ruin (and conflict with the anarchists, who are absolutely comrades) now carries on in their orgs and is not only tolerated but promoted by the state?
That’s what these official orgs in the West are. They’re the revisionists that survived the Sino-Soviet split by being the groups that stood behind Khrushchev and liberalization. They have a very broken ideology, and still create antagonistic conflicts between comrades on the left.
Don’t trust the “tankies”, the real far left in the West are not and have never been artless, joyless internet fash pushing a stale 1950s version of reactionary “Marxist-Leninism”. The real far left are artists, postmodernists, critical theorists, and Anarcho-Maoist revolutionaries.