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  • OhWell [he/him]
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    Interracial porn is the main reason so many white people have had their brains rotted when it comes to sexualizing black men. "BBC" (big black cock) is a term that shouldn't even exist.

    I saw protesters back in July with signs that said stuff like "If you can open your mouth for black cock, you can open your ears for black rights" and I was like WTF

    The whole "cuckold" thing is a carryover from slavery and Jim Crow. It has it's roots in slavery, where the white slave master would make the black male slave fuck his wife, as a way of degrading and humiliating her. It was along the lines of "Look at this ANIMAL taking the woman!". Black men were already dehumanized as animals back then. After slavery and into Jim Crow, this thing still happened, where a white husband would go search for a black man to fuck his wife. I first became aware of this thing from reading about mobster Sam "Mad Sam" DeStefano. There's a famous story from him about finding a black man on the streets of Chicago who he forced at gunpoint to have sex with his wife, and this man was so scared he went and reported himself to the police (it was common for the black men to be reported for rape after it).

    Most IR porn focuses entirely on race and the black man having a huge dick. Again "BBC" is a dehumanizing and degrading term, as it basically says black men are worthless except for having a BBC.

    DogFart and Blacked(dot)com are the absolute worst at pushing these stereotypes and racism. Just the name "Blacked" alone is enough to tell you how bad that is. Every scene, they have a white room, so they contrast the skin color and hell, just the name alone invokes the whole dehumanizing of seeing black men as animals and the woman getting "blacked" by them. It also dehumanizes the white women involved here, cause again, it goes back to the slavery days of a master humiliating his wife by having her taken by an "animal". DogFart from what I read is obsessed with the N word and having women say it during the whole scenes. Lexington Steele spoke in an interview a few years back about a white porn star off the set of DogFart dropping the N word to him, and how that's the first time in his near 20 year career he was ever told that to his face.

    Where I come from in the deep south, interracial dating and marriage is still a taboo, and yet this is usually the most searched porn in our states. Interracial porn outright rots people's brains when it comes to race and understanding, and yet most of the extremely racist people probably watch hours of IR porn. It's pretty fucked up when you trace the origins of "cuckold" and you find it's roots from slavery, and yet this is popular media online.

    Unfortunately, you're probably not going to get a real conversation with the porn industry over how dehumanizing this is. Porn is run like the mafia where all they really care about is their money. They are Lumpens pure to form. The big studios have spent the past few years trying their hardest to protect their superstar rapists James Deen, Markus Depree and a handful of other men they treat like kings (Manuel Ferrara and Ryan Madison have had women come forward in the past year). They're more worried about that and making money than anything else. Lexington Steele is the ONLY black male porn star I've seen really talk candidly about how degrading and dehumanizing a lot of this is, and it's probably only because he's in a position where it won't hurt him.

      • OhWell [he/him]
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        I'm an artist in real life and art is my hobby but also gets me a bit of money on the side as a second job. So stuff like the white rooms in those scenes, really sticks out to me cause I can see what they're trying to do.

        Fuck Blacked.

    • anthm17 [he/him]
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      Interracial porn is the main reason so many white people have had their brains rotted when it comes to sexualizing black men

      I disagree, but only in that I think the porn came about as a result of the brain rot and they just reinforce each other.

      Original source being the Jim Crow and slavery era rhetoric about Black men attacking white women. Same place as so many horrible things.

      Porn is run like the mafia where all they really care about is their money

      Yup. Pornhub kept up child porn, rape porn, revenge porn, etc... Disgusting industry. I'm not judging the actors or the idea of making porn, just saying the industry as it exists is really awful.

      • Caocao [he/him]
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        I think the porn came about as a result of the brain rot and they just reinforce each other.

        is this dialectics?

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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      Also the whole idea of black people having bigger penises than other races also comes from a mindset of the slavery era in which having a bigger penis was seen as an animalistic trait. It's also very harmful because there is pretty much no evidence that race has a sizable effect on the size of an erect penis, so when a black person does not meet the racist expectation of having a massive penis just because of their skin colour, it can cause some messed up feelings and sense of value or self worth. Because all people see in porn and media is that black men are only valued for having a big penis, which is incredibly dehumanising and fetishizing.

      • OhWell [he/him]
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        This is what I mean when I say it rots people's brains. They watch interracial porn and all the BBC fetish stuff and they begin to believe it's true that black men have bigger dicks.

        There's a real conversation to be had over how dehumanizing IR porn is, for how it pushes this belief that black men are worthless except for having a huge dick.

        You're right, it causes messed up feelings and forces one to re-think their self worth.

        There have been a number of white female porn stars refuse to do IR cause of how fucked up it is. They are always labeled racist, however they have a point about how the market for that fetish is so focused on race and it's degrading.

    • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      As an aside, good lord it's gross that there's a porn company called "Dogfart".

      • OhWell [he/him]
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        Riley Reid is a chud. She's also defended these rapists and thrown ex-porn stars under the bus who suffer from PTSD in the industry.

        The main reason why Deen and Dupree are still in the industry is cause of the studios backing them and also women like Ava Addams and Angela White who went way out of their way to keep doing scenes with those rapist assholes after they were outed. Ava Addams made exclusive scenes with James Deen after his rape stuff went mainstream and it helped keep him around while the studios were also protecting him. Dupree was nearly blacklisted from the industry due to his rape cases, and then Angela White began shooting scenes exclusively with him and threatening studios that she would never shoot with them again unless they brought this rapist piece of shit back. That was a few years ago, and they're still in porn and treated like kings.

        Evil Angel waited 2 years to bring James Deen back, once all the talks about his rape cases finally fizzled out.

        A lot of these male porn stars who are rapists, they try to go the PR route of making themselves into these likable guys outside of porn. James Deen did interviews and went for woke points back in 2014-2015 talking about how much he hates racism and supports LGBT rights (this was all before his rape cases went public, he since has tried to hide his face entirely). Manuel Ferrara was recently accused this past year of sexual abuse and I have zero doubt given how rapey his scenes are, but he does Twitch live streaming and tries to make himself out to be this cool guy outside of porn. This was Ron Jeremy's whole shtick. He spent years playing the PR game and building up an image that he was this likable cool guy outside of porn.

  • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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    I wish there was racially diverse porn that wasn't fetishizing race. Shit sucks.

  • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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    Ive been wanting to go in depth about how uncomfortable the conversations about interracial interactions are in depth. I didn't think about it for a long time because my parents are two different races and they're a super stabilizing force in my life.

    To make a long story short, it's super disgusting making me a natural enemy of the Nazi, but incredibly skeptical of the liberal. My hypothesis is that the porn is derivative of attitudes that already exist instead of a driver of it. If your audience is super weird, you probably offer them a weird product.

    • OhWell [he/him]
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      The porn industry is probably the best example of Lumpens. They do not give a shit about anything except their money. That's it. They operate within the grey lines of the law and the capitalist system. There are some better laws in European countries and some of Latin America regarding safe sex and the filming of porn. Those laws aren't here in the US, and there is more money to be made which prompts a lot of Europeans to travel to the US when they do porn.

      They are absolutely morally bankrupt though. The best recent example is how the big studios have went so far out of their way to protect their superstar rapists. James Deen should be in fucking jail, same with Markus Dupree whom there is overwhelming evidence of them being guilty of rape. In the past year, Manuel Ferrara and Ryan Madison were accused, which don't shock me whatsoever given how rapey their scenes are in general.

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        The problem is that if you bring any of this up to people, they slander you as sex-negative, or even try to accuse you of wanting Sharia law because you might break the spell that abusers and rapists have over their victim. Convincing young, vulnerable people that they'll be rich/famous/loved/empowered if they choose to be porn stars or hookers, and that it's a bold, "mature" choice is a tale as old as time. We all rightly provide support for victims, but you're an asshole if you try to prevent people from being victimized in the future.

      • Moosegender [he/him]
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        “Those laws aren’t here in the US, and there is more money to be made which prompts a lot of Europeans to travel to the US when they do porn. “

        You can just cross out porn and it’s true for most other industries.

      • Not_irony [he/him]
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        Lots of the really weird/exploitative stuff would go away because nobody would want to it without the threat of homelessness. Lots of people would still post nudes and shit because that stuff people enjoy doing

      • phimosis__jones [he/him]
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        Erotic expression by people enthusiastic to do it would probably still exist. But such expression is not really pornography, which is the commodification of sexual expression by people who, when not coerced physically, are choosing this form of exploitation over others.

        • rozako [she/her]
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          As an ex-fssw and who knows many fssw, I can guarantee 99% of sex workers would not want to do this if there were any other options. And I'm not sure it can be done ethically at all even less "severe" aspects like camgirls who make their own content. It's a really complicated topic for sure but yeah

        • anthm17 [he/him]
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          You'd probably get some nudes and just general showing off for kicks, maybe some couples sharing stuff.

          People having sex with strangers on camera for the whole world to consume? Yeah that's probably gonna go away.

          Anyway, we're gonna gonna have sex robots.

          • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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            People having sex with strangers on camera for the whole world to consume? Yeah that’s probably gonna go away.

            lmao how could you actually believe that? People voluntarily having sex with strangers on camera and uploading it to the internet will absolutely happen.

            • anthm17 [he/him]
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              I would lump that (broadly) into couples and exhibitionists though.

  • rozako [she/her]
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    This reminds me when I once saw a group of misogynistic gay men say lesbians had it easier cause they're more "normalized" because of porn. Like as if fetishization is representative of anything good.

  • ShoutyMcSocialism [he/him]
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    I've quit porn. It's been a couple of months. Not because of any rightoid crazy person reasons because I just started to find that it was both increasingly disgusting and depressing me as I am aging. If I wanna fap I do shit the old fashioned way. Sorry check out counter girl at CVS, you had on the winged eye liner. The true return to tradition™.

      • ShoutyMcSocialism [he/him]
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        Yeah the longest I've gone is like a month or something. It improves your performance in the gym because of the slight T boost. When I do break I try to make sure it isn't to screen images. I am not shitting on sex workers or anything, I just think for some people's brains the constant viewing isn't good for you.

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    Yeah, I've often thought post nut that pornhub could do a lot to deprogram people. Like, don't group the races by default, and shuffle in more unconventionally attractive people into the mix. Don't ban anything or whatever, just present it not so white hetro-cis people centric

      • Not_irony [he/him]
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        also hilarious to see them tell on themselves online. "You took away my trans step-sister, incest porn!! Thats my freedom!"

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        definitely would need to do it slowly over time and not make a big deal of it. add other features to make it possible to find the people that look like you (because representation matters; search by location, skin tone, etc), dilute the tags so they become more and more meaningless and useless, and then just remove them.

  • BASED_BALL [none/use name]
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    Also role playing the step-mom/step-sister is creepy and weird and right wingers seem to be obsessed with it.

    unlike us based leftists who will cum from wence we came

    • OhWell [he/him]
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      IMO I think the incest porn is the closest they can get in legal boundaries to pedophilia. They'll never admit that, but it's the impression I get.

        • anthm17 [he/him]
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          They just keep child porn up until someone says something.

          Not little kids (at least as far as I know 🤢), but if someone somewhat plausibly passes off a 15 year old then they don't give a shit.

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            "we would go younger, if we could, but we can't, because of the law"

      • UnironicWarCriminal [any]
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        I think it's a hedonic treadmill thing. The porn industry has a long history of things like "barely legal". Step-family porn is a way to make a vanilla video "taboo" and satisfy that dopamine addiction without having to find new performers or pay people to do more exotic niche content.

  • pornguythrowaway [none/use name]
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    Without wanting to sound like a NoFap cult guy, I'm just dropping by to say give up watching porn. I couldn't jerk off for a while due to travelling and this weekend, when I got back, I had a huge binge and felt truly disgusting. It made me realise and admit to myself that I'm addicted, and I had a revelation about how truly fucked up it is that I, most probably like you, was first exposed to porn when I was 11 and have been watching it since. It was there throughout my formative years and (statistically) through yours, and it definitely affected my attitudes towards sex and my sexual behaviours in negative ways. It's shit for your health, your outlook on life and a horrific industry built on rape and exploitation.

  • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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    Tangential, but age is also really fucked up in porn. I notice more and more when I look for milf porn that there are a ton of these women who are only in their mid-late-twenties and they're being presented as "older women", and likewise the younger women are being dressed more and more like children, and put on more childish affectations.

    • threshold [he/him]
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      I'm big into milfs and can agree. You go over 35, hell even 30, and you're geriatric.

      A similar vibe is 'BBW' which is a gross term, but I'm into women who you can't see their ribcage. Sometimes I'll see a 'BBW' woman and I'm like- isn't that just a healthy woman? The standards are so warped.

  • vnbgfhj456 [none/use name]
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    I feel like there's an element of it that's basically this big mental logjam where the US both has a lot of black men as the symbol of its masculinity and white women of its femininity, but they are at the same time not allowed to be let out of specific places on the hierarchy.

    Like I think even if the US was socialist this would still be the case and is a long term result of having huge amounts of violent repression on that specific type of relationship combined with the massive cultural shift afterwards. It's this deep scar in the Ameribrain that gives people boners when they tickle it.

  • wtypstanaccount04 [he/him]
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    I stopped watching Blacked after I realized just how racist it was making me. I really despise that shit.

  • Blurst_Of_Times [he/him,they/them]
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    I heard on a podcast that if you search "big naturals" a bunch of times, it pushes the incest stuff out of your algorithm.