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“American medics officially registered their first Covid-19 patient on January 19, 2020, but the findings in a paper published in the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases suggest the virus may have been circulating in the US prior to that.”

“The researchers studied almost 7,400 blood donations made in nine US states between December 13, 2019 and January 17, 2020. Evidence of Covid-19 bodies antibodies, the presence of which suggest a person had contact with the virus, were present in 106 of those samples, according to the study.”

“This means coronavirus could have been in the US a month before it saw its first confirmed case, and weeks before the Chinese authorities announced the infection in the city of Wuhan.”

  • Woly [any]
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    I know this is just a joke, but I'm going to repeat what I said in the other post about this, because I think that this is a pointless debate for people to spend their energy on.

    This article says that the first Covid cases were in the US before the Chinese government "confirmed" that there was a disease. Deliberately poor wording on the part of RT. But the earliest of these positive blood samples (not all 106 of them, just the earliest ones) date to December 13th, and the first symptomatic carrier of coronavirus has been identified, by the Chinese government, as a man in Wuhan who presented symptoms on December 1st. We now know that the most dangerous thing about the virus is that it lives and spreads through asymptomatic carriers, so the December 1st man can't even be identified as patient zero. And I haven't seen a study of blood samples taken from Wuhan residents from before December 1st. If the virus had come from the United States, there would have been a similar bloom of cases in these areas before the virus got out of control in Wuhan. The speed at which the virus spreads is well documented from super spreader incidents; the probability of the virus percolating in the United States without setting off a massive infection before the spread in Wuhan doesn't make sense.

    And on top of all that, it doesn't matter. The United States obviously had a worse response to the coronavirus than China, arguing about where it started only strengthens the resolve of people who think it’s China’s fault and want to absolve the United States. Viruses have existed since before humankind; it's only that our extremely globalized society allows them unprecedented access to more humans. So the virus came from a wet market or a factory farm, so what? Ending capitalism isn't going to end viruses. The global communist utopia is going to have to deal with covid-99 the same as we did, they'll just do a better job of it.

    Focus on the very real failure of our government to deal with an unpreventable catastrophe, instead of wondering if it was preventable in the first place, otherwise we'll be no better prepared when the next pandemic comes.

    • opposide [none/use name]
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      Oh trust me I know it doesn’t matter it would just be funny :party-sicko:

      • Woly [any]
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        It would shut a lot of people up I'll give you that :cat-vibing:

        • shitstorm [he/him]
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          No it wouldn't. If you say anything remotely positive about China's response to COVID they just straight up say China is lying. "Well if it was in the US in Dec 2019 then it was definitely in China way before that."

          • spinachupper [he/him]
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            It's always either that or China's response is just a fortunate side effect of them being "authoritarian" so our freedom-loving government being unable to just pay people to stay the fuck home is an unlucky consequence of our magnificent freedom.

              • spinachupper [he/him]
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                I'm not sure what this is referring to, but I'm guessing the conspiracy theory is that China welded the research labs' doors shut so its scientists couldn't warn the world of COVID?

                • shitstorm [he/him]
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                  Nah, welding doors shut of apartments to enforce quarantine.

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          What do you think the C in CDC stands for idiot? It's the China Department of China. It's a propaganda organization. You're an idiot for trusting it.

    • OhWell [he/him]
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      100% agree with this post and just want to add, RT is a bad source. They're the Russian news site that never posts anything about Russia. They'll put a microphone in the face of anyone who criticizes the US government. They used to have Richard Spencer on there and several far right conspiracy theorists.

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        They’ll put a microphone in the face of anyone who criticizes the US government.

        Inshallah