fine, I'll break it down, too. in addition to the genital fixation:
mix it up implies gender is a frivolous choice.
chromanticore is a reference to the mythical beast the manticore - the man-eater. this is a subtle tr*p meme.
and yes, there's a long history of trans women depicted as beasts. CDPR gets no passes because this is supposed to be a dystopia. this is transphobic on 3 counts.
this isn't sex sold for the benefit of trans people. this is a depiction of trans people used to sell sex to cis people. this is on the same level as Black bull imagery - we wouldn't hesitate to call that out as racist, even if it is a dystopia.
art doesn't have to reinforce systemic hierarchies in the real world - doing so is a choice made by the artist. criticizing that choice is fair game. you're giving the same "ahh, but you see, because of the lore..." defense people always use to defend shitty art. but real human beings made choices about what to depict in the art intended for consumption by other real human beings, who see the art and are informed by it.
art doesn’t have to reinforce systemic hierarchies in the real world - doing so is a choice made by the artist. criticizing that choice is fair game. you’re giving the same “ahh, but you see, because of the lore…” defense people always use to defend shitty art. but real human beings made choices about what to depict in the art intended for consumption by other real human beings, who see the art and are informed by it.
for you, this is a dystopia. for me, this is just my life.
what here says to you that the artist wants you to take away that this is bad? it's /just/ depiction. it's neither criticism nor endorsement. we live in a deeply transphobic society. that means that bare depiction operates as tacit endorsement - it merely reinforces the latent bigotry in society.
dystopias are fantastic tool to critique oppression but this ain't it.
every depiction of somethiong bad has to come with a 90 minute lecture directed at the audience to make it cool?
It existing in this fucked up world is already criticism of the ad brh. It's like getting mad a racist poster in Bioshock infinite even tho thats where the game is set
don't include shitty depictions of marginalized groups. you don't have to be an asshole.
criticize the shitty depiction in some way.
I strongly recommend option 1.
It existing in this fucked up world is already criticism of the ad brh. It’s like getting mad a racist poster in Bioshock infinite even tho thats where the game is set
we've come full circle. settings don't arise whole cloth out of nothing. human beings choose the elements to include and those choices influence the people who consume the art. Bioshock is an example of a work that sets out to do political criticism. it's the exact opposite of 2077, which is using shitty depictions of trans people while offering no substantial criticism of that depiction.
and don't come back with cyberpunk is criticism of capitalism - that 1. has virtually nothing to do with the elements I'm pointing to as problematic and 2. cyberpunk is being used in this work to evoke an aesthetic, NOT to criticize capitalism, in the first place. this is liberal art intended for a mass liberal audience.
it's just lazy art and a cashgrab. it's okay to like problematic things but get the fuck out of my notifications telling me whether or not to feel grossed out by a dehumanizing depiction of my own god damned body. this shit is personal to me. death by a thousand paper cuts still leaves you dead.
the marketing campaign has a bunch of hypersexualized trans women so I'm expecting a trashfire. this shit is gross.
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yea... fixating on trans people's genitals is gross as fuck. this isn't just hypersexualized advertising.
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fine, I'll break it down, too. in addition to the genital fixation:
and yes, there's a long history of trans women depicted as beasts. CDPR gets no passes because this is supposed to be a dystopia. this is transphobic on 3 counts.
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this isn't sex sold for the benefit of trans people. this is a depiction of trans people used to sell sex to cis people. this is on the same level as Black bull imagery - we wouldn't hesitate to call that out as racist, even if it is a dystopia.
art doesn't have to reinforce systemic hierarchies in the real world - doing so is a choice made by the artist. criticizing that choice is fair game. you're giving the same "ahh, but you see, because of the lore..." defense people always use to defend shitty art. but real human beings made choices about what to depict in the art intended for consumption by other real human beings, who see the art and are informed by it.
also, why would art that dehumanizes us sell sex to trans people? what? we're people. we want to be treated like people.
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It's cyberpunk its supposed to be dystopian who cares
art doesn’t have to reinforce systemic hierarchies in the real world - doing so is a choice made by the artist. criticizing that choice is fair game. you’re giving the same “ahh, but you see, because of the lore…” defense people always use to defend shitty art. but real human beings made choices about what to depict in the art intended for consumption by other real human beings, who see the art and are informed by it.
for you, this is a dystopia. for me, this is just my life.
depiction =/= endorsement, idk where yous guys got that idea
it doesn't have to be endorsement for it to be transphobic. also, the developers have a long history with transphobia. seriously, fuck off.
nah
Now yer gettin it!
Real ife. Right now. 2020. that shit? Dystopia fam. Now you can either roll with it or tie yerself into knots about it
what here says to you that the artist wants you to take away that this is bad? it's /just/ depiction. it's neither criticism nor endorsement. we live in a deeply transphobic society. that means that bare depiction operates as tacit endorsement - it merely reinforces the latent bigotry in society.
dystopias are fantastic tool to critique oppression but this ain't it.
every depiction of somethiong bad has to come with a 90 minute lecture directed at the audience to make it cool?
It existing in this fucked up world is already criticism of the ad brh. It's like getting mad a racist poster in Bioshock infinite even tho thats where the game is set
some alternative options:
I strongly recommend option 1.
we've come full circle. settings don't arise whole cloth out of nothing. human beings choose the elements to include and those choices influence the people who consume the art. Bioshock is an example of a work that sets out to do political criticism. it's the exact opposite of 2077, which is using shitty depictions of trans people while offering no substantial criticism of that depiction.
and don't come back with cyberpunk is criticism of capitalism - that 1. has virtually nothing to do with the elements I'm pointing to as problematic and 2. cyberpunk is being used in this work to evoke an aesthetic, NOT to criticize capitalism, in the first place. this is liberal art intended for a mass liberal audience.
it's just lazy art and a cashgrab. it's okay to like problematic things but get the fuck out of my notifications telling me whether or not to feel grossed out by a dehumanizing depiction of my own god damned body. this shit is personal to me. death by a thousand paper cuts still leaves you dead.
lel. you can just ignore my responses if you want, you choose to reply m8. You choose to get mad at shit. You're choice.
Anyway have a nice day. Try not to get mad today :^)
if you don't tremble at every injustice, you are no comrade of mine.
You're posting on an internet forum, don't throw overdramatic pedanty at me