Who else can't wait to participate in the vaccine lottery?

  • Pezevenk [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    because this way they can prioritize poor people from those groups into the first mass doses

    This makes no sense. Health personnel is being prioritised, not "poor people".

    • anthm17 [he/him]
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      Obviously I meant the first group that's being prioritized out of the general pop.

      • Pezevenk [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        ...which is super old people. Like, do you seriously think they'll just say "we're starting to vaccinate people, but you can only get the vaccine if you make less than 1000k per month!"? That's such a weird way to view how capitalism works lol. If anyone is excluded in any country it's gonna be the opposite, you'll have to pay for the vaccine.

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          Using oppressed to test out sketchy medical treatments is a time honored American tradition.

          https://hexbear.net/post/59784

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              Because this isn't the Tuskeegee experiment, they're not trying to give people syphilis, and he linked to a literal antivax conspiracy website?

            • anthm17 [he/him]
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              I googled the people instead of the site and they're all anti-vax nutters, so fair enough on downvotes.

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            Which part of "it's literally already being announced who is getting the vaccine first and it's literally already been tested on tens of thousands of people" do you find hard to figure out? The issue is EXACTLY the opposite, poor people potentially not having access.

            • anthm17 [he/him]
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              There are a bunch of problems, and I don't really want to get into an argument because I feel like we're on totally different tracks here.

              Take a look at the article (which I hope is BS but it's unsettling).

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                Good job linking to an article by people who literally belong to a shitty anti vax non profit (not anti-covid vax, anti vax in general) that also panics about the new world order and Bill Gates using brain mapping on their children or whatever the fuck!

                A bunch of problems like what? There have been two vaccines which may be responsible for severe adverse reactions, the Johnson and Johnson one and the AstraZeneca one. NOT Moderna, or Pfizer, or Sputnik V, or Sinovac. Regardless of what you may have read in weird antivaxxer websites. And again, I can't stress this enough, it's literally already been tested on tens of thousands of people, and the first groups to be vaccinated have already began to be vaccinated, and it's not "poor people" or whatever dumb shit, if there is an issue, the issue is going to be poor communities not gaining access to the vaccine, which is exactly what happens all the fucking time.

                • anthm17 [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  A bunch of problems like what?

                  Like it's expensive, hard to refrigerate, and getting enough doses is going to take a ridiculous amount of time. Distributing the thing is going to be a massive headache.

                  Would you calm down?

                  Good job linking to an article by people who literally belong to a shitty anti vax non profit (not anti-covid vax, anti vax in general) that also panics about the new world order and Bill Gates using brain mapping on their children or whatever the fuck!

                  Okay, it seemed reasonably well written and had sources that don't seem insane so I linked it. There is nothing in the article about gates beyond mentioning the foundation plays a key role.

                  Feel free to tell me more about this thing and why I shouldn't believe them.

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                    4 years ago

                    Like it’s expensive, hard to refrigerate, and getting enough doses is going to take a ridiculous amount of time

                    ...none of which have anything to do with the safety, and are EXACTLY why I am saying the problem for poor communities will be access.

                    Would you calm down?

                    Not until you stop linking to terrible anti vax websites. Do you not understand how much damage it can cause? This shit won't stop if people don't get vaccinated, and people will keep dying. There is no reason to keep trying to find problems that aren't there and pushing people to antivaxxers. There's legitimate problems that you did bring up but they are of a completely different nature.

                    Google the people who wrote it. It's a good rule. They're in Children's Health Defense. The first thing that pops up on Google when you search them is their anti vax shit, it's the whole point of the organisation.

                    • anthm17 [he/him]
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                      4 years ago

                      Not until you stop linking to terrible anti vax websites.

                      Except that's not a terrible anti-vax website, it's a reasonable looking website run by bad people. All you had to say is "that's an anti-vax site" instead of freaking out like I'm deliberately sabotaging something.

                      Calm down.

                  • Pezevenk [he/him]
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                    4 years ago

                    In particular, it is RFK's dumb anti vax org.

                        • anthm17 [he/him]
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                          oh right Jr. I was wondering how a guy who died decades ago was driving anti-vax now.