Children can learn
Oh dang, the upvotes in the original post are already at 8k (in only 4 hours)
I think it's more "China. Bad." than "Blizzard. Bad." or more accurately "Fuck Bobby Kotick" sentiment. :/
Actually, looking at the top comments: Some of them aren't that at all. So they might might be radicalized.
I had a post on old chapo from a similar story where I legit got some of them to read theory and started a huge thread about LTV with thousands of upvotes, they're getting there.
found it: https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/hmnswb/ign_stealing_a_deepfake_videoand_not_even/fx6lm0k/?context=3
I remember seeing that, I've been having some success as well at radicalizing random people by framing their frustrations as issues with capitalism.
lol thanks, I figure I gotta do something useful while I'm being constantly online.
I'm sure there's some of that at play, but these are gamers we're talking about, so there's always room for it to be worse: Whether labor rights abuses are good or bad mostly depends on whether they liked the studio's most recent game.
more accurately “Fuck Bobby Kotick” sentiment. :/
Why the :/
How is there anything wrong with this
A lot of nazis use Bobb Kotick as a jump off for anti-semitism.
i love how gamers refuse to get radicalized after seeing literally every gaming company doing this, and having incredibly exploititave capitalist systems in most games. zzzzz
>When you make a meme with a game from a studio that also hideous overworks it's employees
Certified le epin post good narwhal!
:edib thanks for the golderino!
They targeted gamers.
Gamers.
We're a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little digital token saying we did.
We'll punish our selfs doing things others would consider torture, because we think it's fun.
We'll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of a fictional character all to draw out a single extra point of damage per second.
Many of us have made careers out of doing just these things: slogging through the grind, all day, the same quests over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know evety little detail such that some have attained such gamer nirvana that they can literally play these games blindfolded.
Do these people have any idea how many controllers have been smashed, systems over heated, disks and carts destroyed 8n frustration? All to latter be referred to as bragging rights?
These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our media? We're already building a new one without them. They take our devs? Gamers aren't shy about throwing their money else where, or even making the games our selves. They think calling us racist, mysoginistic, rape apologists is going to change us? We've been called worse things by prepubescent 10 year olds with a shitty head set. They picked a fight against a group that's already grown desensitized to their strategies and methods. Who enjoy the battle of attrition they've threatened us with. Who take it as a challange when they tell us we no longer matter. Our obsession with proving we can after being told we can't is so deeply ingrained from years of dealing with big brothers/sisters and friends laughing at how pathetic we used to be that proving you people wrong has become a very real need; a honed reflex.
Gamers are competative, hard core, by nature. We love a challange. The worst thing you did in all of this was to challange us. You're not special, you're not original, you're not the first; this is just another boss fight.
Argued with a monarchist the other day and they unironically quoted Voltaire, saying: "I would rather obey a fine lion, much stronger than myself, than two hundred rats of my own species."
Proper cuckold mindset
I'm sure the devs working on Cyperpunk 2077 have it way easier, ain't that right
Sighs deeply because I know if it hadn't been their current stocking horse (and ofc it does because I'm sure this goes on at every major studio) they probably wouldn't have given a shit
the situation is really fucked and i would imagine more gamers can empathise with the financial insecurity stuff right now in the us then before corona so i get it why not even them could just be cool with this one
Unfortunately, I think that on average capital G Gamers (especially the ones on Reddit) are more likely to vilify specific companies for doing things like this while continuing to revere others, rather than coming to the correct conclusion that exploitation and inequality are natural consequences of the incentive structures of capitalism. It's very difficult for one of the most poisonously atomized subcultures to see things beyond the framing of individual bad actors and their inherent moral fiber. "Activision bad but CDPR give us le epic Keanu so CDPR good."
It's a shame though, because this shit is so naked in the video game industry that under different circumstances you would think gamers would be ripe for radicalization. I'd hypothesize that part of it boils down to the fact that, for a long time, the Right has had such a monopoly on internet propaganda (the kind that tends to reach lonely, alienated young men) - such that if gamers do radicalize, it's often in in the wrong direction. The online Left is relatively embryonic by comparison. Just spitballing, though.
Dude, I don't pretend that, but them saying "shit, g*me programmers should form a strong union to not be treated like shit" is a BIG start.
Oh word? Tbh I didn't read the thread (I've been avoiding direct contact with Reddit as much as possible lol), was just sharing general impressions from previous experiences - that is definitely promising!
