It's gross as fuck. The death penalty thread today has almost 100% upvotes on the correct take (death penalty bad), but just a week ago one of the Foxconn troglodytes was telling me that China doing the death penalty was good actually, and they should be "killing more drug dealers" because most of them are "foreign whites." I wonder how that thread would have gone with the addition of "death penalty... in China."
The site feels like it's getting close to a death spiral into irrelevance since user engagement fell after the election. At the point where half the posts are just about defending every excess of Chinese capitalism, the site ceases to be a broad left space (or even a left space at all). People who think China is AES that needs to be defended at every turn are a fraction of a fraction of the left in the countries that make up Chapo's userbase.
Lol, if it makes you feel better to think that, go for it man. I'd ask you for a citation, but I don't even know how you would go about quantifying this. I can tell you the left in India is pretty anti-China given the historical relationship, so that accounts for about a sixth of the world population right there, but you probably think the only real leftist party in India is four random contrarians from some split of a split so... 🤷♀️
The criticisms that Indian, Vietnamese and Filipino Communists have are not the same that white radlibs have. They certainly wouldn't make the liberal argument that imprisoning a fucking Bloomberg journalist is bad lmao.
With that said, the main Communist parties of basically every country in Africa, Latin America, the Middle East, and Europe all support China and there isn't some Stalin-era comintern forcing their hands.
If you'd read the article, you'd know they didn't imprison a Bloomberg journalist, they imprisoned a Chinese national working as an assistant in Bloomberg's office. If they imprisoned an American who had the support of the embassy, that would seem much more like fair play to me.
the main Communist parties of basically every country in Africa, Latin America, the Middle East, and Europe all support China
While (unlike you) I'm not willing to speak broadly about places I don't know much about, I do closely follow the politics of two countries in these regions, and in those two cases the pro-China left factions are a small part of a much larger ecosystem of left groups. I suspect there's some tautology to your thinking here--the only "communist" parties in these areas are the ones that support Chinese capitalism.
My understanding is that the biggest split was during the war against China, over whether or not to support the Nehru government in the war. But the reason why pro-China splitters still have almost no support has more to do with them being associated with Naxalites and the continuing disputes between China and India. It's hard for our Foxconn friends to fathom, because they've convinced themselves China can't do imperialism, but many leftists in India consider China's imperial ambitions in India's smaller neighbors a threat, and are worried that Chinese companies operating in India will try to impose Chinese labor standards and make things even worse for workers in the Indian labor market.
Lol, I love how basically exactly this topic came up in that r/blackwolffeed post that's currently top of Active and none of the big-brained teenaged pro-China propogandists in the Chapo thread are understanding that the site is doomed if posts making fun of it for being too pro China are getting +50 votes on blackwolffeed. Like, those people were the community on reddit.
Grill pill has just become a get out of being a dipshit card for you guys. Argue libshit earnestly and as soon as you get cornered and have no response, you emergency eject with “grill pill” or pigpoopballs. It’s so obvious how full of shit you libs are
It's gross as fuck. The death penalty thread today has almost 100% upvotes on the correct take (death penalty bad), but just a week ago one of the Foxconn troglodytes was telling me that China doing the death penalty was good actually, and they should be "killing more drug dealers" because most of them are "foreign whites." I wonder how that thread would have gone with the addition of "death penalty... in China."
The site feels like it's getting close to a death spiral into irrelevance since user engagement fell after the election. At the point where half the posts are just about defending every excess of Chinese capitalism, the site ceases to be a broad left space (or even a left space at all). People who think China is AES that needs to be defended at every turn are a fraction of a fraction of the left in the countries that make up Chapo's userbase.
But the vast majority of the global left
Lol, if it makes you feel better to think that, go for it man. I'd ask you for a citation, but I don't even know how you would go about quantifying this. I can tell you the left in India is pretty anti-China given the historical relationship, so that accounts for about a sixth of the world population right there, but you probably think the only real leftist party in India is four random contrarians from some split of a split so... 🤷♀️
The criticisms that Indian, Vietnamese and Filipino Communists have are not the same that white radlibs have. They certainly wouldn't make the liberal argument that imprisoning a fucking Bloomberg journalist is bad lmao.
With that said, the main Communist parties of basically every country in Africa, Latin America, the Middle East, and Europe all support China and there isn't some Stalin-era comintern forcing their hands.
If you'd read the article, you'd know they didn't imprison a Bloomberg journalist, they imprisoned a Chinese national working as an assistant in Bloomberg's office. If they imprisoned an American who had the support of the embassy, that would seem much more like fair play to me.
While (unlike you) I'm not willing to speak broadly about places I don't know much about, I do closely follow the politics of two countries in these regions, and in those two cases the pro-China left factions are a small part of a much larger ecosystem of left groups. I suspect there's some tautology to your thinking here--the only "communist" parties in these areas are the ones that support Chinese capitalism.
Didn’t the left in India split over Sino-Soviet? Have the pro-China side recanted since Reform and Opening Up?
My understanding is that the biggest split was during the war against China, over whether or not to support the Nehru government in the war. But the reason why pro-China splitters still have almost no support has more to do with them being associated with Naxalites and the continuing disputes between China and India. It's hard for our Foxconn friends to fathom, because they've convinced themselves China can't do imperialism, but many leftists in India consider China's imperial ambitions in India's smaller neighbors a threat, and are worried that Chinese companies operating in India will try to impose Chinese labor standards and make things even worse for workers in the Indian labor market.
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Lol, I love how basically exactly this topic came up in that r/blackwolffeed post that's currently top of Active and none of the big-brained teenaged pro-China propogandists in the Chapo thread are understanding that the site is doomed if posts making fun of it for being too pro China are getting +50 votes on blackwolffeed. Like, those people were the community on reddit.
oh no the liberals are looking! Optics Optics!!!!
I looked it up just because you mentioned it, it was a literal /r/neoliberal poster whinging about winnie the poo
God you are so optics cucked, you're bending over backwards to fit in with neolibs.
How about in the future, do yourself a favor, and preemptively shut the fuck up.
That shit was fucking hilarious. At this point then convinced these clowns are just /r/neoliberal wreckers.
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Grill pill has just become a get out of being a dipshit card for you guys. Argue libshit earnestly and as soon as you get cornered and have no response, you emergency eject with “grill pill” or pigpoopballs. It’s so obvious how full of shit you libs are
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