• Mike_Penis [any]
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    contributing very little

    when you know history. i ain't no america stan but bruh

    • Juche_Gang [none/use name]
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      The war was decided already by the time the US did anything, they waited to see if the Nazis would take Moscow.

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        The Nazi offensives only started to be reversed after the battle of Kursk, in August 1943. By that time the Americans were in Sicily, and had been fighting on the Western Front for over six months.

        It's possible to argue that the USA postponed its involvement in the war in the interest of attrition of the USSR, but the path of the war was anything but clear preceding its entry.

        "Contributing very little" is accurate about the Eastern Front, debatable about the Western Front, and not reasonable about the Pacific. "Contributing less than others" is more accurate.

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          The whole fucking war was the eastern front and who gives af about Sicily? They were beating around the bush

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            No matter how fast the North Africa and Italy campaigns went, the point is that it was enough to divide the European Axis powers onto two active fronts. Unless you can tell me how the US Army could get onto the Eastern Front through Turkey and the Caucasus, or via the very Nazi-occupied Baltic Sea, there's no point in talking about the USA's influence on the Eastern Front.

            The majority of the war was the Eastern Front, but the majority isn't equal to the whole. No one is saying that the Soviets weren't the biggest factor in the war, but saying that American involvement was inconsequential is inaccurate.

      • Mike_Penis [any]
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        I am fully aware america didn't change the course of the war but that doesn't mean they contributed nothing.

        I'm sure opening up another huge front in the west for germany didn't accomplish or contribute anything. It's not like the soviets were constantly asking for someone to oopen up a second front or anything. Surely destroying the german air force and keeping them occupied by having to fend off bombers did nothing. Or supplying allied countries with fuel and trucks and tons of other shit. nope nothing.

        • Juche_Gang [none/use name]
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          They didn't open the Western front when it actually mattered to the eastern front, they only showed up in n Europe after it was clear the red army would march to the Atlantic

          • Mike_Penis [any]
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            do you know what planning is? Also America literally suggested doing earlier landings and britain shot it down. they decided on invading africa first to actually learn how to do an invasion. not everything was an anti soviet decision.

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              Yeah planning while they watched the Atlantic wall being built, they were certainly doing a lot of planning when they refused to ally with the USSR against Germany before the war too, and during the Phoney War, that must have taken a lot of planning as well.

              • JoeySteel [comrade/them]
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                Its so refreshing to see actual ww2 history being repeated in left spaces instead of this braindead cia rot that has US embassies declaring they were the ones to liberate camps instead of the Soviets

                https://sputniknews.com/world/202001291078170577-fury-online-as-us-embassy-in-denmark-claims-american-soldiers-freed-auschwitz-during-wwii/

        • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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          I am fully aware america didn’t change the course of the war but that doesn’t mean they contributed nothing.

          You're right, they contributed massive amounts of investment and resources to the Nazi regime and imperial Japan before entering the war to make sure the Soviets didn't keep going all the way to the Atlantic.

          • Mike_Penis [any]
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            Why did America and Britain give the USSR supplies until the end of the war?

            • alcoholicorn [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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              Yeah planning while they watched the Atlantic wall being built, they were certainly doing a lot of planning when they refused to ally with the USSR against Germany before the war too, and during the Phoney War, that must have taken a lot of planning as well.

              By the end of the war, something like 1/3 of the USSR's trucks were from lend-lease. If the USA were more troubled by the existence of the USSR than nazi-occupied Europe, they wouldn't have sent the soviets anything.