I'm no anti vax but this covid vaccine got me feeling sus

Fearing a second round of this

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutter_Laboratories#Cutter_incident

  • TheOneTrueChapo [comrade/them]
    2·
    4 years ago

    You're missing the part that we don't have any mRNA vaccines on the market and this could be a reaction that an incredibly small portion of the population has to any vaccine like this. (People with egg allergies have issues with current market vaccines, just as an example). You're missing the part where this did not come up in trials and out of the hundreds of approved vaccines already given in the UK they've only seen 2 examples of this. You're missing the part where covid vaccines were fast tracked in an administrative sense but heavily scrunitized (this is going out to hundreds of millions of people) so to call them rushed is a stretch. You're missing the parts were "oh shit, that's a new side effect" always happens with every new medication and that's the whole purpose of the "Phase 4 trial" concept, which this vaccine is still going through.

    Skepticism is a good thing, but taking a single data point or news headline to confirm what is ultimately a gut feeling you have is straight up anti vax logic and should not be tolerated or promoted here. Sorry for the mild rant but the discourse around this vaccine here is god awful and I'm sick of seeing anti vax talking points and views being applied around here

      • TheOneTrueChapo [comrade/them]
        1·
        4 years ago

        Some of this is just general knowledge that I've picked up here and there but when I want to point people to stuff I tend to use-

        Short overview of FDA trials and what each phase means and remind them we are in Phase 4 meaning the drug is available for use but they monitor it heavily for any additional side effects or other issues.

        Normally when you submit a vaccine to the FDA your on a waiting list and you're behind everyone else who put one in before you. They bumped everything related to covid to the front of the line (which is why test options got quick approval too) and they cut out arbitrary waiting periods between trials. This source is good or if you want a short blurb about how they basically sped up paperwork there is this as well

        mRNA vaccines are new and really cool but also rely on known science so they are pretty safe. Bonus source

        Here's something about people with egg allergies reacting to current vaccines this does not apply for all vaccines but its useful to mention whenever people bring up allergic reactions to this vaccine (which tbf does not contain eggs or gelatin, the two common causes of allergic reactions to vaccines)

        Sorry that this is kinda surface level info/articles, if someone has a comphresive source on all this I'd love it so I can send it to people lol. Please re-evaluate the vaccine discussion here because it's outright dangerous. People possibly declining this vaccine puts them and everyone around them at risk

        • bottech [he/him]
          1·
          4 years ago

          Maybe there should be a separete post about this to prevent any antivax sentiments, admins could then feature it

            • mine [she/her,comrade/them]
              ·
              4 years ago

              Please weigh-in with why you think it's needed: https://hexbear.net/post/62129/comment/624785. Screamo was asking in the other thread I made if changing site policy to back against anti-vaxx posts is really necessary.