• invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Actually worse because social credit score in China is still not a national thing yet, unlike Prism and financial credit scores (that used to also include factors like race, church denomination, and gender as factors).

    There are a few negative effects you can get, but it's mostly just no-fly and fines. You are given an extensive list of what it measures and how it measures it and what to do to get it up unlike in America where it's like a fucking religion.

    There are also big perks for having a good score like free rail tickets and cash bonuses. Meanwhile having a good score here means you are allowed to spend your money and get access to debt.

    Please. PLEASE. GIVE ME CHINA'S SOCIAL CREDIT SYSTEM. I hate that it is presented as this dystopian thing when we have what everyone is imagining it to be here with Prism and TransUnion/Equifax.

    • bockwad [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Social credit is just bad.

      You shouldn't have to worry about repercussions to your material life when posting online.

      Its bad when China does it. It could be much worse if capitalists did it. Either way, it takes away some of your liberty -- it isn't worth a free train ticket now and then to self censor yourself.

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        4 years ago

        https://www.wired.com/story/china-social-credit-score-system/#:~:text=language%20barrier

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I don't know. I think some form of social credit type system could be useful. Especially as a replacement for the police state. Especially one with low downsides that allows people to recover their score by doing community service.

        The wholly centralized American style system is a nightmare, but the way China's doing it with individual cities having their own programs and they only share data on the absolute worst offenders is a more same way.

        The way that wired article describes it as more of a BBB with consequences is pretty good. It seems to mostly target businesses and business owners that are treating employees poorly or lying to customers. There are only a few million people on the no-fly list too, and that's not a permanent opaque thing like in America. You can just go pay your fine/do community service and you're good to go. I have a feeling the number is so high because there are a lot of people who just can't be bothered because they don't plan on flying anytime soon.