• Grace [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    All propaganda against China is fucking projection

    • lvysaur [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      make bots that search rich mayo shit from 6pm - 8pm.

      Use a VPN for all browsing outside of those hours so it looks like you have a job

      • captcha [any]
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        4 years ago

        May we finally pop the internet ad bubble?

    • ARVSPEX [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      I genuinely think that, besides the obvious angles of demonising an 'other' and distracting from one's own doings, there is also a strategy of desensitisation directed at their own populaces at play when it comes to this sort of thing.

      • X country is bad
      • X country is doing Y
      • Y is a bad thing (by virtue of being associated with X)
      • We, unlike X, are good and have accountability systems in place
      • The case for doing Y over here, but in a good way
      • Actually, we have been doing Y for some quite time now
      • ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

      Or something along such lines. It is a rather rough idea but I think you know what I am getting at.

  • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    credit score takes a nosedive when you look up unionization or wage theft, sounds great

    • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Fun exploit someone suggested in the comments (which are largely good and rightfully opposed to this shit): boosting credit scores with fake activity. Seems like something a computer-savvy comrade could make and share around if this ever happened.

  • The_word_of_dog [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Lol this would make it so your ability to have financial independence is tied to whether or not you search for the "correct" things.

    Obviously it would be exploited and blah blah blah, but the other side of this is that people would be literally afraid for their actual well-being in society to look up anything that runs counter to the mainstream culture.

    This would be a very effective way to control people and to stop the spread of leftist education.

    It's like the idea of don't check out the wrong book at the library or you'll be put on a list, except way bigger and tied to your ability to thrive.

    You wouldn't be able to get any body to search the internet for information on anything except what is allowed lol

  • ARVSPEX [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    *clears throat *

    IN...

    DYSTOPIAN...

    TOTALITARIAN...

    CHAYNAAAAAAAAAAA..........!!!!!!!!!!

  • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    There's no way this could work without exploit. Literally what's stopping people from googling rich white liberal shit like "Ruth Bader Ginsberg Funko Pops" or "Houses for sale in [bougie ass neighborhood]" or "r/neoliberal" and watching their credit score go through the roof?

    • Randomdog [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah this sounds really scary but actually I think it's just another episode in the long running series "old white men do not understand the internet"

    • 90u9y8gb9t86vytv97g [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Because that sort of browsing over a long period of time being believable, combined with PC fingerprinting and location data isn't feasible.

  • ToastGhost [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    denied a loan and die of lack of insulin because i wont switch to microsoft edge.

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      Actually worse because social credit score in China is still not a national thing yet, unlike Prism and financial credit scores (that used to also include factors like race, church denomination, and gender as factors).

      There are a few negative effects you can get, but it's mostly just no-fly and fines. You are given an extensive list of what it measures and how it measures it and what to do to get it up unlike in America where it's like a fucking religion.

      There are also big perks for having a good score like free rail tickets and cash bonuses. Meanwhile having a good score here means you are allowed to spend your money and get access to debt.

      Please. PLEASE. GIVE ME CHINA'S SOCIAL CREDIT SYSTEM. I hate that it is presented as this dystopian thing when we have what everyone is imagining it to be here with Prism and TransUnion/Equifax.

      • bockwad [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Social credit is just bad.

        You shouldn't have to worry about repercussions to your material life when posting online.

        Its bad when China does it. It could be much worse if capitalists did it. Either way, it takes away some of your liberty -- it isn't worth a free train ticket now and then to self censor yourself.

        • kitchenparty [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          https://www.wired.com/story/china-social-credit-score-system/#:~:text=language%20barrier

        • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          I don't know. I think some form of social credit type system could be useful. Especially as a replacement for the police state. Especially one with low downsides that allows people to recover their score by doing community service.

          The wholly centralized American style system is a nightmare, but the way China's doing it with individual cities having their own programs and they only share data on the absolute worst offenders is a more same way.

          The way that wired article describes it as more of a BBB with consequences is pretty good. It seems to mostly target businesses and business owners that are treating employees poorly or lying to customers. There are only a few million people on the no-fly list too, and that's not a permanent opaque thing like in America. You can just go pay your fine/do community service and you're good to go. I have a feeling the number is so high because there are a lot of people who just can't be bothered because they don't plan on flying anytime soon.

  • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Can't wait to see my credit score take a hit because my large son who lives at home spent the last financial quarter looking at too much brony hentai.

  • MoralisticCommunist [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    In Communalist China everyone has a credit score that prevents them from access various crucial services!

  • Pezevenk [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    So how's it gonna work, will it raise your credit score if it catches you browsing child porn?

    • chantox
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