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      being better is when we murder iranian leadership unprovoked

      Iran is still standing. Libya is an open-air slave market. You know how many Libyan generals were murdered by the Obama administration?

      What is better is detaining more people indefinitely instead of even deporting them you are correct that this is less harmful

      Sure. Do you want to debate whether detainment, or sending them back to US-backed death squads is better or worse? I'd say both are horrible.

      Won’t argue there

      Ding ding ding.

      Nothing materially changed, more people have been murdered

      Major cities have been shut down for months with general public support. Ferguson and Baltimore were crushed almost immediately. That is a material change.

      Trump Is Less Evil Than Obama is so fucking horseshit lol

      As horseshit as "Obama Is Less Evil Than Trump", that's my entire point.

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          Hmm yes it’s less evil that we murder people without discretion because are incompetent. It’s certainly not the same level of awful because the intention is there lol

          Executing top generals and creating an open-air slave market is worse than just executing generals. I don't care about intentions, none of these people are honest about their intentions.

          I don’t debate dumbfucks, it’s self evident that Not Being Able To Be A Human is pretty fuckin bad

          Sure. Are you referring to the cententration camps, or the handling people over to US-backed death squads?

          This reads as: “I am an an uneducated assclown who watches V*ush streams”

          Vaush agrees with your perspective btw

          lol what cities are shut down?

          Right now, I think none? The biggest shut-down were in Seattle, Portland, Minneapolis. The Portland protests were shutting down their downtown area for at least 100 days. In my city, which had a relatively smaller response, the main shopping district was still disrupted for about a week.

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              Knowing that a popular streamer supports "lesser-evilism" makes me a Vaush watcher lmao

              I'm sorry you have incredibly dumb takes. No reason to call me names.

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                  I have agreed with every single thing you have said about Trump.

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                      You can reread the thread. The dispute is not over the facts .

                      The dispute of over whether "Trump was better than Obama" or "Obama was better than Trump" are valid statements.

                      My perspective is that there are arguments for both. And therefore, they are both meaningless. You disagree.

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      this take that Trump Is Less Evil Than Obama is so fucking horseshit lol

      "Trump is less evil than X corporate Democrat" is consistently the worst take on here, followed closely by "write off all libs from the list of people who are persuadable."

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        The dumbest takes here are, in order:

        1: “Trump is less evil than X corporate Democrat”

        1 (tie): “X corporate Democrat is less evil than Trump”