100%. It's easier to make a niche website with less than 10,000 users a "safe space" for trans then it is to make your neighborhood an actual safe space for trans. Yet the effort is played up as radical and communist, when it's actually just sad and liberal.
Waging a campaign to purge users from a small niche website, enforcing some weird version of an anonymous progressive stack, and acting like it's revolutionary is sad and liberal, yes
oh, do downvotes hurt your feelings? I wonder what that would be like, to post something positive and then have it heavily downvoted for no reason. Wonder what that would be like. :leslie-shining:
Yea. It sucks to just be downvoted brigade style. Which is why it shouldnt happen on trans-positive posts. Doesn't change my criticism of how the issue is being handled by mods.
removing downvotes because some people can't stop being reactionary is a weak suggestion. It's good to be able to downvote actual bad and shitty content. People were abusing it. We don't remove the tool because some people are abusing using the tool to stab others.
I made a comment elsewhere explaining it. I'll repost here:
If the issue is that trans users are seeing the number of downvotes trans-positives posts receive and that makes them feel unwelcome, then just remove the icon that shows the number of downvotes a post received. Still allow downvotes, but make it like reddit where you only see the net voting. There’s any number of reasons why someone might downvote a post and I understand that trans users might see the downvotes and think it’s targetted because of trans reasons. This fixes the immediate issue at hand. Obviously there is some deeper community building that should go on on making the community welcoming, but that kind of thing isn’t something that can be solved with new rules and mods.
100%. It's easier to make a niche website with less than 10,000 users a "safe space" for trans then it is to make your neighborhood an actual safe space for trans. Yet the effort is played up as radical and communist, when it's actually just sad and liberal.
are...you saying trying to make a safe online space for trans people is sad and liberal?? or am i misinterpreting your comment?
Waging a campaign to purge users from a small niche website, enforcing some weird version of an anonymous progressive stack, and acting like it's revolutionary is sad and liberal, yes
me: i want the trans subs to not be 25% downvotes, so trans people feel safe to be here
you: thinking of other peoples feeling is reactionariy
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Lol. I engage in good faith criticism and get downvotes before I can even add the previous comment. Fuck off
oh, do downvotes hurt your feelings? I wonder what that would be like, to post something positive and then have it heavily downvoted for no reason. Wonder what that would be like. :leslie-shining:
Yea. It sucks to just be downvoted brigade style. Which is why it shouldnt happen on trans-positive posts. Doesn't change my criticism of how the issue is being handled by mods.
removing downvotes because some people can't stop being reactionary is a weak suggestion. It's good to be able to downvote actual bad and shitty content. People were abusing it. We don't remove the tool because some people are abusing using the tool to stab others.
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I made a comment elsewhere explaining it. I'll repost here:
If the issue is that trans users are seeing the number of downvotes trans-positives posts receive and that makes them feel unwelcome, then just remove the icon that shows the number of downvotes a post received. Still allow downvotes, but make it like reddit where you only see the net voting. There’s any number of reasons why someone might downvote a post and I understand that trans users might see the downvotes and think it’s targetted because of trans reasons. This fixes the immediate issue at hand. Obviously there is some deeper community building that should go on on making the community welcoming, but that kind of thing isn’t something that can be solved with new rules and mods.
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"Liberalism is when socialists do stuff online, and the more online stuff they do, the more liberal it is"
It's amazing how much you're telling on yourself right now