i mean you're not far off base except that they have valid points, not "excuses." we are the harbingers of death to countless thousands of species and ecosystems. never being born means never experiencing happiness but also never experiencing suffering, which is a net neutral, as opposed to being born with only a chance of happiness and absolute certainty of suffering, a net negative. and the selfishness of making a new child when there are thousands of children who already have sentience and need a parent.

basically if you think you should adopt/rescue an animal instead of paying someone to breed more, and then apply that to humans, you're antinatalist. it really has little to do with what other people expect of your reproductive goals. that is on a personal basis depending on how much one cares what others think.

as a related side note, im getting my tubes removed tomorrow morning :floppy-parrot: