• OhWell [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Bernie wasn't going to win anyway and few people acknowledge this. The primary is set up how candidates have to get through the most conservative states early on. He was doing OK until Super Tuesday. The Obama phone call didn't help matters, but Biden was beginning to surge around then anyway. All the Obama move did was really push him even further, but Bernie was already in trouble before that.

    Michigan was his biggest loss and he should've won that. Biden started winning in blowouts after Super Tuesday. Bernie didn't have the backing of the party and that came back to haunt him. Liberals will always go along with the party, and we had already had 4 years of them yelling at us how Obama was a great president and they wanted a return to normal, so it absolutely was no shock Biden won the primary. He was the clear favorite before it even started.

    It's amazing to me that few people want to actually acknowledge Bernie ran a shit campaign through and through. His campaign was run by grifters like Sirota and those people really tanked it for him. Even without COVID, I don't think he wins. Go back to when he debated Biden and managed to make that senile dementia riddled old fool look coherent by losing the argument entirely. Bernie melted down towards the end of the primary. He started out strong but it wasn't going to be enough to carry him. We have to just acknowledge that America is a very right wing country. It's socially liberal and fiscally conservative. We've got a long ways to go before people finally start changing their minds on policy like M4A.

    • MiraculousMM [he/him, any]M
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      4 years ago

      socially liberal and fiscally conservative

      :agony-turbo: :agony-turbo: :agony-turbo:

      • ShoutyMcSocialism [he/him]
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        Yeah it's absolute pain to acknowledge that but I agree with him. This country breaks right. People are socially liberal because it costs them nothing. Talk about a program that taxes them an extra twenty dollars to feed orphans and they're immediately off the boat.

          • ShoutyMcSocialism [he/him]
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            Yeah this was definitely a thing while Bernie was campaigning. I'd pen and paper the cost of M4A for the two or three moderate liberals I know and it would amount to like 50-75 dollars a paycheck for people that make 80+ grand a year. HE'S GOING TO TAX US TO DEATH they'd screech. I stopped talking to one of them.