• garbage [none/use name,he/him]
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      4 years ago

      he just thinks that if he were to draw a line now that it would negatively effect the future of progress. we all may think he's wrong, and we're probably right about that, but he's still on our side. he's just ineffective.

    • MarxistHedonism [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      It seemed to me like Bernie really got brainwashed into believing he caused Trump to be president in 2016 and had Chomsky-brain about 2020.

      I think he’s realized the party establishment will never allow him to do more than he is, so now he has the freedom to do whatever he wants and not care if he pisses them off. He’ll never lose the senate in Vermont and he’s too old to run for anything else so he can be as disruptive as needed in the senate.

      Unfortunately he’s just one guy with one probably dependable ally (Markey), but he has the largest platform in the Senate. Also, if the Dems win in Georgia, Bernie becomes very powerful (so does Manchin unfortunately).

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        anyone truly radical gets weeded out. Anyone who can be turned gets turned.

    • MerryChristmas [any]
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      4 years ago

      I just want to wait and see what he does now that he no longer has presidential ambitions before judging him too harshly. My suspicion is that he actually believed he could win the primary this time, and seeing that the Democrats would simply never let it happen, he decided to fall back and reassess instead of exhausting his political capital on a rigged fight. I don't have any delusions about how radical he is, but he could still be useful if he positions himself as the anti-McConnell.

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      Bernie wasn't going to win anyway and few people acknowledge this. The primary is set up how candidates have to get through the most conservative states early on. He was doing OK until Super Tuesday. The Obama phone call didn't help matters, but Biden was beginning to surge around then anyway. All the Obama move did was really push him even further, but Bernie was already in trouble before that.

      Michigan was his biggest loss and he should've won that. Biden started winning in blowouts after Super Tuesday. Bernie didn't have the backing of the party and that came back to haunt him. Liberals will always go along with the party, and we had already had 4 years of them yelling at us how Obama was a great president and they wanted a return to normal, so it absolutely was no shock Biden won the primary. He was the clear favorite before it even started.

      It's amazing to me that few people want to actually acknowledge Bernie ran a shit campaign through and through. His campaign was run by grifters like Sirota and those people really tanked it for him. Even without COVID, I don't think he wins. Go back to when he debated Biden and managed to make that senile dementia riddled old fool look coherent by losing the argument entirely. Bernie melted down towards the end of the primary. He started out strong but it wasn't going to be enough to carry him. We have to just acknowledge that America is a very right wing country. It's socially liberal and fiscally conservative. We've got a long ways to go before people finally start changing their minds on policy like M4A.

      • MiraculousMM [he/him, any]M
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        4 years ago

        socially liberal and fiscally conservative

        :agony-turbo: :agony-turbo: :agony-turbo:

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          Yeah it's absolute pain to acknowledge that but I agree with him. This country breaks right. People are socially liberal because it costs them nothing. Talk about a program that taxes them an extra twenty dollars to feed orphans and they're immediately off the boat.

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              Yeah this was definitely a thing while Bernie was campaigning. I'd pen and paper the cost of M4A for the two or three moderate liberals I know and it would amount to like 50-75 dollars a paycheck for people that make 80+ grand a year. HE'S GOING TO TAX US TO DEATH they'd screech. I stopped talking to one of them.

  • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    real or not, i know a meme template when i see one

    slap a mao quote on there and shop the podium into a honkin big gun.

    :frog-no-pretext: :comrade-birdie:

    • poppy_apocalypse [he/him, any]
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      4 years ago

      At first I thought antler-Bernie was roll-with-my-kittie-and-i'm-hard-as-fuck-Bubbles and was not disappointed

  • OhWell [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    The funniest part about that tweet is that Trump caved on the $600 and signed it.

    For all his huffing and puffing last week and getting everyone in their family to just talk about this endlessly for Christmas dinner, Trump didn't disappoint. All talk and no walk. Acts like he's some big tough guy making demands like that and ultimately backs down.

    Reminder that Trump could've actually ran on the stimulus months ago and people were desperate enough it probably would've swung the election for him. He also could've passed something relating to it via executive order. Anyone that remembers when he got out of the hospital on that drug cocktail from COVID, may remember him getting on twitter and ranting about how he was dropping the stimulus.

    So all in all, Trump did what he always does - talks big and motivates his moron supporters and ultimately don't deliver on anything. Not sure what Bernie was expecting from him.