• Terkrockerfeller [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Tangential but my mom was hysterical about me trying a weed edible (legal here in CA for years now) going off about how it's a gateway drug and stuff despite me explaining different drugs' effects being completely different and the only thing that "drugs" even means is as a legal category for various chemicals and plants.

    Months later she hears a podcast episode from Freakonomics or something about experimental therapies that use Molly and immediately starts suggesting I ask my psychologist about it. Lol

  • kavila [any]
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    4 years ago

    the man ended MKULTRA and criminalized LSD when they realized you can't use psychedelics to manipulate people in a predictable or productive way

    psychedelics also happen to be extremely unprofitable due to the large duration between doses and the absence of addictive potential

    so no this is not happening

    • imperialsunset [comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      They also cause you to wake up to the oneness of everything, which really isn't compatible with capitalism.

    • HamManBad [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      MKULTRA ended up being more about perfecting torture through sensory deprivation/overload than mind control. The mind control stuff was a limited hangout to give the illusion of transparency after the existence of the program came to light. The Shock Doctrine has a good recap of this and its use in the global implementation of neoliberalism, the juicy bits are in the free preview on Google books if you want to check it out

    • ColinInk [any]
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      4 years ago

      Is microdosing a way to counter these market obstacles?

      • The_word_of_dog [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Lol if you sold microdoses of LSD in prozac bottles it'd be fucking hilarious

        • Mog_Pharou [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Lol if you sold microdoses macrodoses of LSD in prozac bottles it’d be fucking hilarious

          :geordi-yes:

      • kavila [any]
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        4 years ago

        no

        edit: actually you'd just have to convince roganbros it's worth 1000x what it actually is

        so yes

        • crime [she/her, any]
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          4 years ago

          I get the "ha ha legal meth" and the "productivity drug" perspectives on adderall but I really feel so much more like myself when I take it, it just cuts down the noise in my brain and lets me do one thing at once until I finish it — for me it's not about being more productive for capital, it's getting a reprieve from having like six competing trains of thought which is super exhausting.

  • joaomarrom [he/him, comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    I think it's so sad that people are overlooking the more spiritual and meaningful effects of psychedelics in order to use them to be better at work. It's just fucking work, it's not your life. Stop microdosing and making your boss more money. Do a massive macrodose and rethink your place on the planet. What a waste of perfectly good psychedelics.

    Psilocybin has the potential to change one's life in deep, meaningful ways, and that's how I believe people should be using it.

  • anon [he/him,he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Unpopular opinion but "ego death" is probably just an illusion, sure everything is just one substance but the only way for thought to exist is for distinct regions of this substance to act exactly as they would if they were TRULY separate. And our physical world works like that (on our scale). Consciousness is EVEN CLOSER to a bunch of truly separate entities: no matter how much you believe in the Oneness of everything, you can't ever access someone else's inner thoughts, try asking someone to think of a random 5-digit numbers and you'll almost never guess it right. Eventually the components of consciousness return to other parts of the One Universal Substance, but at that point consciousness DISAPPEARS. Just because you're glad to have discovered there's MORE THAN ONE state of consciousness doesn't mean the one you've discovered most recently has to contain all the truth.

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      "Jesse what tf are you talking about"

  • goldsound [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    On the bright side it'll make it easier for me to finally try tripping.