I just discovered that Radical Reviewer believes the western account of the 1932 Ukranian famine, and I could not be more disappointed.

  • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    compare it to the american dust bowl the numbers dont look as bad as we think

    somehow the americans avoided tens of thousands of deaths that might be worth looking into

    • neebay [any,undecided]
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      4 years ago

      pretty sure more people than that died of starvation/malnutrition in the US during that period

      • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        much much fewer than the USSR. high estimates of 7,000 from the dustbowl, couple hundred from starvation in the GD generally. even if underreported the numbers are very different.

          • sailor_redstar [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            Even if we take the low estimate, The United States should have fared even better in comparison. They had much more developed industrial agriculture whereas Russia was still transitioning away from peasant farming through the collectivization policy in question, and had suffered a recent famine in 1891-92. Through the Agricultural Adjustment Act, FDR paid farmers not to plant in order to keep food prices high during a shortage instead of... distributing food to those who needed it and still providing financial support to the farmers to prevent them from going under, or something.

          • SSJBlueStalin [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            I'd of said his numbers were too high but living through covid it all feels real plausible