I can't believe I gave these people money.

    • PhaseFour [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah... I can't believe I'm getting called a right-wing lying piece of shit for saying Pelosi, Schumer, and Biden are not passing a tax hike.

      Saying "taxes must be raised" is not the same as having a plan to pay for something.

    • anthm17 [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      We aren't talking past each other, they are spewing lies.

      The taxes are in the bill. The idea that paying for it hasn't been considered is an easily disproven lie. it's a complete fabrication.

      So no I'm not talking past anyone I'm explicitly calling another poster a liar for being a liar.

        • anthm17 [he/him]
          hexagon
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          4 years ago

          Why are you willing to give a free pass to someone spewing neoliberal lies?

          • PhaseFour [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            God, people are so fucking disingenuous here.

            "We should raise taxes on the wealthy" is not a serious plan to pay for M4A. It is useful propaganda. But it is not a plan. Socialists have organized around "we should raise taxes on the wealthy" for decades, and we are no where closer to M4A. Every single major impediment still exists.

            • anthm17 [he/him]
              hexagon
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              4 years ago

              It's in the fucking bill.

              You're just spewing right wing talking points uncritically at this point.

              • PhaseFour [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                And how is that bill getting passed?

                You are calling me a Liberal while pretending a bill in Congress is worth the paper it is written on. There is no plan whatsoever to get the bourgeoisie to raise their taxes.

                • anthm17 [he/him]
                  hexagon
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                  4 years ago

                  No, I'm calling you a disingenuous lying fuck for saying they haven't thought about how to pay for it.

                  It's just a right wing lie. That's all it is. You want to argue that it won't happen that's fine, but to say they haven't tried is a complete and total lie.

                  • PhaseFour [he/him]
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                    4 years ago

                    The question of "how do you get the bourgeoisie to raise their taxes?" is a serious aspect of "how are you going to pay for it?" that no one wants to consider.

                    A document saying "socialism now!" is not a serious plan for socialism. A document saying "higher taxes on the rich!" is not a serious plan for M4A.