I will never not be angry about the whole super Tuesday bullshit. It made me depressed enough to consider not voting for the first time. Just utterly fuck everything about this election cycle. I think the bigger "fuck you," to me, was the platform NOT supporting Medicare 4 All, in a the middle of a pandemic and pretty overwhelming support for the policy among voters.
I know the Dems have always been "compromised" by corporate interests, but that was the real mask-off moment of me going "Yeah, I can't even vote down-ballot for these assholes" for me.
Really, the one time the Dems demonstrated ruthless competence being against Sanders was a shocking moment. Who knew they had it in them? Their fecklessness against Republicans turns out to just be an act. I'd been assuming they were just totally incompetent this whole time, when instead they were pulling the ol' Reagan act.
As much as I want Ranked Choice: I doubt it's ever gonna happen in the US.
If I vote, I'm doing write-in for the presidential (Bernie/Matt, for the record). Down-ballot, I'll probably vote third party if any are on the ballot otherwise I'll leave those blank. I can not in good faith vote for an R or D this election cycle (or probably ever again) given how often they want to screw me, someone that needs insurance to cover a lot of costs but won't because it's not "medically necessary" for a disability, repeatedly.
But I'm leaning hard into "don't even bother, it's pointless" doomerism because... it kind of is... after so long of seeing shit not change for the hard-up/poorer working class.
Keep in mind that they won't be able to pull that off every time. Shit, look at Republicans in 2016 for an example of a major party unable to coalesce around an establishment candidate in time to head off an outsider.
You can thank the corporate media for Trump winning and Bernie getting screwed tho. The ability to saturate the airwaves or exclude someone from them is a powerful tool.
I think it's revealing that Bernie got as far as he did even despite that. At the end of the day what killed him was Obama calling up all the other candidates (except Warren, for some odd reason...) and getting them to drop out and endorse Biden on the eve of Super Tuesday. The media magnified that, sure, but that kind of political maneuvering would have a major impact on an election even with some platonic ideal of unbiased media.
And that isn't something a party can always pull off. The only reason the nominee was Biden (as opposed to someone who can draw a clock) is because no one else could attract any reliable block of voters. In a year there's no candidate like Biden, or a year where the Tara Reade story comes out a month earlier, or a year where a popular ex-president doesn't exist to get the other candidates in line, Bernie plows through Super Tuesday and wins. Establishment Democrats were able to pull it off this time, but that doesn't mean they'll be able to pull it off every time.
I think it’s revealing that Bernie got as far as he did even despite that. At the end of the day what killed him was Obama calling up all the other candidates (except Warren, for some odd reason…) and getting them to drop out and endorse Biden on the eve of Super Tuesday. The media magnified that, sure, but that kind of political maneuvering would have a major impact on an election even with some platonic ideal of unbiased media.
Totally agree. Those fundraising maps where Bernie took like 90% of the country were amazing. :smiling face with heart-eyes: That he was able to stay 2nd and third in the polls while being totally blacked out was a testament to how his message resonated with people... but also to how much he embodied that message, his history, etc.
And that isn’t something a party can always pull off. The only reason the nominee was Biden (as opposed to someone who can draw a clock) is because no one else could attract any reliable block of voters. In a year there’s no candidate like Biden, or a year where the Tara Reade story comes out a month earlier, or a year where a popular ex-president doesn’t exist to get the other candidates in line, Bernie plows through Super Tuesday and wins. Establishment Democrats were able to pull it off this time, but that doesn’t mean they’ll be able to pull it off every time.
Maybe, but I've got serious doubts... It's their party and regardless of whether or not we've got a candidate of Bernie's caliber they're always going to be the ones pulling the strings and making the rules. Bernie still had to walk into that convention with a majority of delegates to keep the super delegates at bay and they still could have performed untold fuckery behind the scenes. As demonstrated at the 2016 convention, the media is on their side against a leftist challenger and most of the Democratic Party voters had no clue of the shenanigans going on behind the scenes because corporate media was willing to look the other way.
I think it's also important to remember that we may very well be fucked for 12 years if Biden wins and lets his VP run after his first term. That's 12 years of us being kicked in the teeth and them massaging the system to smooth out any footholds we may have used to gain traction with Bernie. All the while, our ability to fundraise dropping as our piece of the pie continues to shrink.
And totally not to harp on you, but as if all that's not enough, just a reminder that CNN literally ignored and refused to acknowledge the Tara Reade story until the day Bernie dropped out. I think that's really the solid reminder that they're not helping the dems because they have a preference for them; It's that any candidate looking to introduce reformism or leftism into the world is the enemy of their bosses, their jobs, and their lifestyle.
God damn this shit is depressing.:grinning face with sweat:
Listen, these days I'm more tankie than not, but I'm still so fucking pissed how they did my boy dirty
I will never not be angry about the whole super Tuesday bullshit. It made me depressed enough to consider not voting for the first time. Just utterly fuck everything about this election cycle. I think the bigger "fuck you," to me, was the platform NOT supporting Medicare 4 All, in a the middle of a pandemic and pretty overwhelming support for the policy among voters.
I know the Dems have always been "compromised" by corporate interests, but that was the real mask-off moment of me going "Yeah, I can't even vote down-ballot for these assholes" for me.
Really, the one time the Dems demonstrated ruthless competence being against Sanders was a shocking moment. Who knew they had it in them? Their fecklessness against Republicans turns out to just be an act. I'd been assuming they were just totally incompetent this whole time, when instead they were pulling the ol' Reagan act.
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As much as I want Ranked Choice: I doubt it's ever gonna happen in the US.
If I vote, I'm doing write-in for the presidential (Bernie/Matt, for the record). Down-ballot, I'll probably vote third party if any are on the ballot otherwise I'll leave those blank. I can not in good faith vote for an R or D this election cycle (or probably ever again) given how often they want to screw me, someone that needs insurance to cover a lot of costs but won't because it's not "medically necessary" for a disability, repeatedly.
But I'm leaning hard into "don't even bother, it's pointless" doomerism because... it kind of is... after so long of seeing shit not change for the hard-up/poorer working class.
Never ever say never ever
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Keep in mind that they won't be able to pull that off every time. Shit, look at Republicans in 2016 for an example of a major party unable to coalesce around an establishment candidate in time to head off an outsider.
You can thank the corporate media for Trump winning and Bernie getting screwed tho. The ability to saturate the airwaves or exclude someone from them is a powerful tool.
I think it's revealing that Bernie got as far as he did even despite that. At the end of the day what killed him was Obama calling up all the other candidates (except Warren, for some odd reason...) and getting them to drop out and endorse Biden on the eve of Super Tuesday. The media magnified that, sure, but that kind of political maneuvering would have a major impact on an election even with some platonic ideal of unbiased media.
And that isn't something a party can always pull off. The only reason the nominee was Biden (as opposed to someone who can draw a clock) is because no one else could attract any reliable block of voters. In a year there's no candidate like Biden, or a year where the Tara Reade story comes out a month earlier, or a year where a popular ex-president doesn't exist to get the other candidates in line, Bernie plows through Super Tuesday and wins. Establishment Democrats were able to pull it off this time, but that doesn't mean they'll be able to pull it off every time.
Totally agree. Those fundraising maps where Bernie took like 90% of the country were amazing. :smiling face with heart-eyes: That he was able to stay 2nd and third in the polls while being totally blacked out was a testament to how his message resonated with people... but also to how much he embodied that message, his history, etc.
Maybe, but I've got serious doubts... It's their party and regardless of whether or not we've got a candidate of Bernie's caliber they're always going to be the ones pulling the strings and making the rules. Bernie still had to walk into that convention with a majority of delegates to keep the super delegates at bay and they still could have performed untold fuckery behind the scenes. As demonstrated at the 2016 convention, the media is on their side against a leftist challenger and most of the Democratic Party voters had no clue of the shenanigans going on behind the scenes because corporate media was willing to look the other way.
I think it's also important to remember that we may very well be fucked for 12 years if Biden wins and lets his VP run after his first term. That's 12 years of us being kicked in the teeth and them massaging the system to smooth out any footholds we may have used to gain traction with Bernie. All the while, our ability to fundraise dropping as our piece of the pie continues to shrink.
And totally not to harp on you, but as if all that's not enough, just a reminder that CNN literally ignored and refused to acknowledge the Tara Reade story until the day Bernie dropped out. I think that's really the solid reminder that they're not helping the dems because they have a preference for them; It's that any candidate looking to introduce reformism or leftism into the world is the enemy of their bosses, their jobs, and their lifestyle.
God damn this shit is depressing.:grinning face with sweat:
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Right? :downcast face with sweat: