Fuck I am so sleep deprived but this is a real account right? There is no fucking way
https://nitter.net/DevanaUkraine/status/1706748191301845392#m
Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies.
They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.
-Sartre
Ukrainians are very outraged that on many websites the coat of arms of the SS [...] is declared Nazi and can be punished.
how compellingit was a Canadian tribunal ... [that] fully acquitted them
Forgive me for not completely trusting the judgement of a country that was explicitly importing Nazis to help crush its domestic labour movement
And when I say explicit, I mean it:
Fighting against the Third Reich by fighting for the Third Reich. It makes sense
This last week has been a lot of nazi's attempted grand reveals
"In Ukraine, the SS Galicia Division is perceived as heroes"
I'm curious how the Jewish Ukrainians feel about this, although I imagine the ones that are still there have learned to keep their heads down for safety.
"the coat of arms of the SS Galicia division, which is taken from the Lviv coat of arms"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lviv_pogroms_(1941)
"The Lviv pogroms were the consecutive pogroms and massacres of Jews in June and July 1941 in the city of Lwów in German-occupied Eastern Poland/Western Ukraine (now Lviv, Ukraine). The massacres were perpetrated by Ukrainian nationalists (specifically, the OUN), German death squads (Einsatzgruppen), and urban population from 30 June to 2 July, and from 25 to 29 July, during the German invasion of the Soviet Union. Thousands of Jews were killed both in the pogroms and in the Einsatzgruppen killings. "
Ukrainian fascists are the absolute masters of historical revisionism.
Repeat it and repeat it and repeat it until it becomes what people perceive as true because they've simply seen it repeated so many times that they themselves repeat it.
I'm not joking can somebody look this shit up and drop liberal sources or fucking books i can translate like I am completely out of calibration, or verify this account to see is not just a Russian bot.
"Stepan Bandera: The Life and Afterlife of a Ukrainian Nationalist" is a great mainstream source on all that. The author is also a liberal
In early 1943, Himmler ordered the establishment of a Waffen-SS Galizien division, made up of Ukrainian soldiers, but forbade it to be called Ukrainian. In a speech on 16 May 1944, Himmler claimed that he had called it Galician “according to the name of your beautiful homeland.” He also made comments such as “I know if I ordered the Division to exterminate the Poles in this area or that area, I would be a very popular man.”
The soldiers of the Waffen-SS Galizien took the oath: “I swear by God this holy oath, that in the struggle against Bolshevism, I will give absolute obedience to the Commander-in-Chief of the German Armed Forces, Adolf Hitler, and if it be his will, I will always be prepared as a fearless soldier, to lay down my life for this oath.”
Vasyl’ Veryha, a veteran of this division, mentioned in his memoirs that Ukrainian policemen greeted the Waffen-SS Galizien soldiers with “Heil Hitler!” and that the response was “Glory to Ukraine!” (Slava Ukraїni!).
According to testimony by UPA partisans, the SS police regiment was supported by UPA freedom fighters when they exterminated the Polish village population. In Slovakia, where the Waffen-SS Galizien helped the Germans to suppress the Slovak National Uprising, individuals from the Waffen-SS Galizien may have committed crimes against civilians as well.
I believe this could be real. Yesterday there was a post about the Ukrainian Wikipedia on Lemmygrad, and I saw so many pro-UPA and SS Galicia users there. I can also believe there's a probably lot of national propaganda about UPA/Bandera and SS Galicia. especially considering the situation with Nazism over there. Zelenskyyyy himself said it's normal and cool that Bandera is a hero to some Ukrainians.
Here's a very
but funny post from that account https://nitter.net/DevanaUkraine/status/1707030791098605662
