My family immigrated from the USSR and even though we've lived in places that had dishwashers, we've never used them. We just do everything by hand and it's fine??

Even if you do use it; I can understand getting all the chunks off before putting dishes in there, but if you're rinsing it off too, just rub it with a soapy sponge a bit and you're done?? Why would you almost wash it and then put it in the washer? It's like cleaning before the maid comes.

If the answer is "so they're sparkling clean every single time" then you're a bougie and need to learn to have some humility. Some water stains on the bottom of your plate are a non-issue.

Edit: after reading the comments and talking it over with my friends, I've decided to elaborate a bit

Washing dishes by using a soapy sponge and running water: the best way

Scraping them then putting em in the dishwasher: oooh look at mr fancy pants over here. But if you're running full loads on a new efficient washer then I guess I'll allow it

Rinsing plates then putting them in the washer: fuck you

Filling the fucking sink with soapy water to wash dishes: what the actual fuck is wrong with you go back to your fucking Norman Rockwell painting you absolute psychopath

  • ElGosso [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Dishwashers that meet the Energy Star certification rating are more water-efficient than handwashing and can be more energy efficient at making hot water than your hot water heater

    • queenjamie [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Yeah so it's better to just put the dirty dishes straight in there. Yet you'll see people "pre-rinse" and then use the dishwasher. That wastes even more water, but they're too dumb to realize it.

      • earthmover [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        This is not only misinformation, it's dangerous misinformation. The dishwasher clogs up if you put plates with big pieces of food in it.

      • ElGosso [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Yeah it's a relic of an older time when dishwashers were shittier

      • TheCaconym [any]
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        3 years ago

        Yeah so it’s better to just put the dirty dishes straight in there

        If there isn't large pieces of food, yes; but you also have to remember to clean up the filter often.

        • AliceBToklas [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          Not all dishwashers have filters, some use a garbage disposal type situation to get chunky bits out

          • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Yeah, mine runs directly to a garbage disposal that's under the main sink. You can even put a grease trap in the disposal line and compost the stuff. Maybe not though, depending on what kind of chemicals you flush down your sink. Would probably be great for a vermicomposter situation though.

            • AliceBToklas [she/her]
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              3 years ago

              I feel like the grease trap option would be more to reduce grease problems in your sewer line than for composting.

              • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about, I read some pamphlets and articles on sustainable housing that included some sort of waste composting directly in the pipes, but that might have just been the vermicomposter.

                • AliceBToklas [she/her]
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                  3 years ago

                  idk if a vermicomposter would be able to do that, I do see some things about using off cuts of pvc pipe to make a vermicomposter but I don't know of any composting system that would work directly in the pipes.

                  • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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                    3 years ago

                    Not directly in the pipes like physically inside them, but like a closed system that you don't have to mess with. You just do business as usual and your pipe setup automatically filters the food waste into a composter instead of sending it to a sewage line.

                    • AliceBToklas [she/her]
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                      3 years ago

                      hmmm, they do something like that on earthships, they plant a non-edible garden area and use that as the leach field for the blackwater runoff, and the greywater all goes into the indoor edible garden. Maybe something like that?

      • AliceBToklas [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        In North America they are plumbed to the hot water line and use the hot water heater to have warm water initially, but for the longer running cycles they reheat the water as it's recirculating.