Drama is when your friend starts talking to your crush behind your back or spreads rumors and shit. People being attacked and belittled for the way they are and their accompannying struggles is not "drama," its bigotry and it could literally turn this site into some kind of stupidpol or redscare fucking cesspool or much worse.

If you dont wanna stick your nose in any of these issues, thats ok, but just dont minimize the struggles of trans peoples. Literally pretending none of this is happening would be more constructive than punching down on people who just want to be treated with respect and have their voices heard. But ideally, please be a true ally and try to activelly push back against transphobia.

Just felt like i had to get that off my back, thanks my sexy commie comrades :heart-sickle: .

  • grym [she/her, comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    Agreed.

    Anyone reading this who's very concerned about mod/admin stuff and has criticism to make, it would legit be more productive right now to not say anything, or ignore it, or log off. Hang out in the megathread, post some nice memes, talk about something else.

    If you're super involved in the site and want to help, then understand the mod team's actions are a symptom, an attempt at fixing a real issue, the issue being based on the material fact of many trans, enby and poc comrades leaving and telling similar things. Complaining about the symptom but not the real problem only makes it worse, it'll only feed a negative feedback-loop of more desperate and on-edge mods, more doomerism about this community, and it'll spiral down.

    It's fine if you lurk a lot and don't know what's happening and don't care, fine, then keep on not-caring by not interacting with it. This young lil' site still has growing pains and sadly a lot of the times to address deep-rooted issues that have been ignored too long it just kinda has to explode and be a mess for a bit.

    At the end of the day we're still figuring shit out, and to be honest i'd rather we figure this stuff out sooner than later. It'll be fine, it's all good.

    • wtypstanaccount04 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      When Chapo.chat emerged as a site half a year ago, filled with ideas and hopes for their users and their site, the users and mods discovered a very awful thing.

      And it wasn’t about themselves, even though they had to do it to themselves. It was about that reactionary encirclement. They discovered that they needed mods. They discovered that they needed ruthless mods. Because all around them coming in from multiple sites and within their own userbase were acts of sabotage, transphobia, attack, racism, and the like.

      And they understood that if the site was going to survive, they would have to build up instruments of mod power, instruments that were controversial even.

      And these instruments, by the way, can make mistakes, and these instruments can not only make mistakes they can ban innocent users and utilize their mod powers excessively.

      If there had been no invasion, if there had been no espionage, if there had been no attack, if there had been no Stupidpol brigade leaving reactionary comments, there wouldn’t have been a purge of the users. If there hadn’t had been a Cumtown raid, there wouldn’t have been a user purge. And to lose sight of that fact is to lose sight of an essential force in what was going on over those few months.

      :trans-heart: :parenti:

      • Polemarchos [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        Cheka murdering your father isnt the secret police's fault, it's the fault of the reactionaries cheka actually wanted to kill.

        "Cough sure the cops shot that guy, not you, but you had your hands in your pockets so it's your fault and we're charging you with murder"

    • Mindfury [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      agreed, and if you need, take the self-imposed grillpill (without overwhelming the admins lmao).
      I did, and I'm hopefully all the better for it - did some self-reflection, thought about why I was getting mad at the internet, and spent a day doing other things instead of digging deeper and deeper into arguments on this website that shouldn't have even been happening.

      Shoutout to @itsPina for remembering to unban me while absolutely flying lmao

    • Polemarchos [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      The site isnt growing and you advising people who are out of the loop but not anti-trans to stop posting is the opposite of helping. Everyone is a lib except for me, once we lose that mentality we are nothing.