Hot take: anti-modernist stances like "reconnecting with nature" always have an intrinsic reactionary value.
You can see the same pattern in the 20th century with German romanticism paving the way for German ultranationalism and naziism.
I think no German goverment put as much ecological legislation out as the government of Adolf Hitler.
The whole "reject modernity" is a right wing point.
There's a huge movement in indigenous spaces of reconnecting with nature as a means of reclaiming and reinvigorating indigenous culture though. "Returning to tradition" means something very different for the colonisers vs the colonised.
This is my main gripe with the left values test too. Nationalism is just defined as being proud of your culture and where you come from, which is VERY different depending on if you come from an imperialist culture vs if you come from one where your culture is currently being colonized. Sometimes it's just about survival and not dominance.
I don't wanna reject our anarcho-primitivist comrades :(
Tbh I find a lot of the nature rhetoric off-putting as well. Maybe it's different depending on what country you're in. Over here I associate stuff like cutesie plates with geese on them with rural reactionaries, yknow, the grandchildren of those who voted for the Anschluss and feel no shame about it. On the other hand I think it's worth fighting for "reconnecting with nature" to not be associated with fascist shit. Actually putting your phone down and taking walks in the countryside is pretty dope lol.
Edit: Less about aesthetics and more about serious political stuff - I'm convinced that Austria is gonna slide happily into ecofascism in the next few decades, as will a lot of Europe, and I'm not looking forward to it.
nah, access to nature is a genuine part of a healthy society and if i could give everyone in the world more opportunities to spend time in it i would. you can't call me reactionary because i like to climb into a canoe occasionally lmao
Hot take: anti-modernist stances like "reconnecting with nature" always have an intrinsic reactionary value. You can see the same pattern in the 20th century with German romanticism paving the way for German ultranationalism and naziism. I think no German goverment put as much ecological legislation out as the government of Adolf Hitler. The whole "reject modernity" is a right wing point.
There's a huge movement in indigenous spaces of reconnecting with nature as a means of reclaiming and reinvigorating indigenous culture though. "Returning to tradition" means something very different for the colonisers vs the colonised.
This is my main gripe with the left values test too. Nationalism is just defined as being proud of your culture and where you come from, which is VERY different depending on if you come from an imperialist culture vs if you come from one where your culture is currently being colonized. Sometimes it's just about survival and not dominance.
I don't wanna reject our anarcho-primitivist comrades :(
Tbh I find a lot of the nature rhetoric off-putting as well. Maybe it's different depending on what country you're in. Over here I associate stuff like cutesie plates with geese on them with rural reactionaries, yknow, the grandchildren of those who voted for the Anschluss and feel no shame about it. On the other hand I think it's worth fighting for "reconnecting with nature" to not be associated with fascist shit. Actually putting your phone down and taking walks in the countryside is pretty dope lol.
Edit: Less about aesthetics and more about serious political stuff - I'm convinced that Austria is gonna slide happily into ecofascism in the next few decades, as will a lot of Europe, and I'm not looking forward to it.
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Redditors identity more with the friends of Jeffrey Epstein than indigenous people, can you think of a reason why?
nah, access to nature is a genuine part of a healthy society and if i could give everyone in the world more opportunities to spend time in it i would. you can't call me reactionary because i like to climb into a canoe occasionally lmao