This is just an cynical excuse that the Kim Monarchist Dictatorship uses to maintain absolute power and control over the hermit kingdom.

You're listening to NPR.

  • BookOfTheBread [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    It's why I've always found it so funny when Americans try to act like they have the moral high ground and other countries should do what they say, USA, the only country that has dropped nukes on civilian targets. America is so far the only country the prove it has a gullible enough population that a large portion of them would wipeout millions of innocent civilians just because some piece of shit general told them it's the right thing to do, if any of the numerous false missile scares had happened on American systems instead of the USSR etc then we would have all been obliterated long ago.

    • GenderIsOpSec [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      The pathetic excuse for a country almost nuked itself in 1961.

      Had those gone off it would've been an instant nuclear war.

      Reading the wikipedia list about all the fuck-ups with nukes and it's honestly a miracle we're still here. The whole 60s reads like a clownshow.

    • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      America is so far the only country the prove it has a gullible enough population that a large portion of them would wipeout millions of innocent civilians just because some piece of shit general told them it’s the right thing to do

      Germany shot all sorts of V2s at British cities in WWII, and I'm pretty sure Britain got in on the bombing of German cities later in the war. These sorts of aerial attacks (and American conventional bombings in WWII and after) produced similar death tolls to the atomic bombs. More broadly, genocide has been justified to many different populations all over the planet.

      As shitty as America is, it's not alone here.

      • BookOfTheBread [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        This is true and I don't want to come off as saying other countries don't have people in that suck just as much, but I do think there is a distinction between crewing a single bomber dropping a nuke and being part of a large bombing campaign/missile attack, both suck but I feel like the nuke just has a lot more personal responsibility, one/a few people personally delivering death to tens of thousands in an instant. A non-piece of shit would have just crashed their plane into the sea and stopped the whole thing. One bomber in a large attack, though deadly isn't going to save the day by refusing to go.

        • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          If the crew of the Enola Gay had refused to fly, another crew would have been sent. If they had crashed the Enola Gay into the ocean, there was another bomb almost ready and a bunch more on the way. I think the individual responsibility factor is no different from a regular bombing raid.

          But we're talking about domestic populations justifying mass deaths of enemy civilians. I think very few groups could claim an immunity to that.