I'm really sick of this dumb country, go away forever please.

    • RandyLahey [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      There's a bunch of people that think Russia were the heirs to the patriarchy of Constantinople after it fell to the perfidious turk in 1453, and also tsar comes from caesar or something, so therefore Nicky was the last Roman emperor until he had a whoopsie in the basement

      Edit: I think there's also other people who think kaiser wilhelm was the last emperor cos you know holy Roman empire, I dunno people are weird

      • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        The Patriarchy of Constantinople I can KIND OF understand, it's one hell of a stretch though. But the Holy Romans? No way, those nerds weren't Roman at all.

        • SoyViking [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          And Wilhelm wasn't even holy Roman emperor. He was emperor of Germany. The Austrian emperors would have a better claim to be successors to the HRE.

          • RandyLahey [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            yeah but he had a sweet stache, that adds +10 to legitimacy

            • SoyViking [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              I hope the hipster full beard guess out of fashion and is replaced by meticulously styled handlebar moustaches.

    • 389aaa [it/its]
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      4 years ago

      To add to the other post on the subject, not only did Mehmed the Conqueror call himself the Caesar of Rome, he frankly had a better claim than some undisputed roman Emperors to the title. The second Sultan of the Ottoman Beylik, Orhan, had the daughter of Emperor John VI Kantakouzenos, Theodora Kantakouzene, as his fifth wife, so there was some blood-derived legitimacy. Not to mention that Gennadius Scholarius, Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople, also backed up the claim. Granted, he was installed in that position by Mehmed the Conqueror, but that's nothing new for Roman Emperors.

      Mehmed even wanted to try and conquer Rome itself, and he had actually started an Italian campaign before he died in 1481. His successors didn't share that interest but they did briefly make the Austrians stop making any mention of the HRE in the 1533 Treaty of Constantinople. A desire to de-legitimize the competing claim was probably also part of the motivation of the repeated failed attempts to capture Vienna, too.