never trust someone who derogatorily refers to people as tankies, qiaocollective does seem to be better for anti imperialism
there's a shithead posting in several ML reddit subs today, clumsily trying to tie the Free HK pedophile to chapo dot chat and generally smear the site as anti-China for not having instantly removed some comment mentions of chuangcn
EDIT: example https://www.reddit.com/r/InformedTankie/comments/l41f3q/just_look_at_how_blatant_propaganda_by/
they do shit like say "EVIDENCE ADMINS ARE DEFENDING THE SHILL POSTERS" and then link to a screenshot of Beatnik making a mild comment about not being overly sectarian or something, just totally misrepresenting the stuff they link to and hoping no one checks
never meant to tie it to chapo, just pointing out maybe we shouldn't trust someone who uses him as a source, sorry if it came across that way
no I'm sorry, not talking about you! it's a reddit user named UqbarB. as far as I can tell you are both right that chuangcn sucks but instead of posting here to tell us that, UqbarB is doing a smear job and misrepresenting the site admins as endorsing it
Those threads are full of chauvinist terfs/stupidpol types lol. Holy shit.
https://reddit.com/r/GenZedong/comments/l416yk/just_look_at_how_blatant_propaganda_by/gkl9i4k?context=3
Literally just making shit up lol
I added a link, in case you wanted to see the axe grinding
https://www.reddit.com/r/InformedTankie/comments/l41f3q/just_look_at_how_blatant_propaganda_by/
Yeah its weird, they seem to have a particular bone with the down votes being disabled so I'm assuming they're an angry terf but who knows.
Qiao collective are comrades, full stop. Chuang using western buzzwords to smear them is Hella sus and casts their work into murky waters meriting a closer examination to verify their authenticity.
Like I said; seems sus, therefor take it with a grain of salt and verify their claims. Ain't nothing wrong if they draw light to some short-comings within the Sino-Socialist system so they can get addressed, but there's something wrong if there's imperial collaboration to undermine AES through the usual spook fuckery.
I think they are a rare window into more marxist political economy critique of modern China, instead of usual china bad china good shitshow, plus real undermining of China is/will be done through capitalism, instead of shiny color revolution, at least initially.
I’m just saying to passing by comrades they are not super spooks (excluding hong cong hot takes), and write interesting perspective.
he told a table full of people eating xmas dinner that the only thing that could make his day better would be if he was left alone to babysit two young sisters and a bag of cocaine while the parents went out.
:what:
[his] former place of employment [was] the Tsuen Wan branch of Kid Smart Schools, a tawdry franchise of education centers that are not regulated by the Hong Kong Education Bureau.
He worked with kids. Not good. Red flag.
I know a comrade who works in the English teaching industry in Asia and he tells me that its full of white pedos at every level.
Chuangcn is a media outlet that's geared towards a Western audience and presents many critiques against China from an ostensibly left perspective. Chuangcn gets criticized for its coverage and its ties to some anticommunist organizations like the National Endowment for Democracy, Radio Free Asia, and the Taiwan Foundation for Democracy which was one of the largest funders of the right-wing Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation. It gives some people Partisan Review vibes. These tweets were actually originally compiled by a redditor who has been posting it on multiple ML subreddits and has been going overboard in trying to portray chapo.chat as being somehow anti-China which is pretty ridiculous considering chapo.chat's history in being one of the more pro-China leaning and anti-imperialist online leftist spaces.
Chuang is a blog run by Chinese marxists, but they're the type of marxists who think that China is "state capitalism," so people here are mad and suspicious
?? Pretty sure the dengists here know China is state capitalist, that’s like the whole point of NEP-style plans like China is doing. It looks more like people are mad that they smear “tankies” and promote western-backed blogs or something I guess
Yeah I guess I meant "They have critiques of China" which in our western media ecosystem is often treated with suspicion due to the relentless anti-china propaganda
preedit edit: you edited it but im posting anyways idgaf
By tied to the NED, they mean that Chuang on occasion has cited publications by NED funded outlets like China Labor Bulletin in some of their articles. There's no actual tie with any of writers or the site as a whole. TBH it's super smeary and dishonest to claim Chuang is tied to them and really serves to wholesale discount anything they say. Furthermore any good research that CLB may do, though it is tainted by being NED funded, immediately gets dismissed without looking at what they actually said. It really sucks, but CLB does collect information on chinese labor from social media and publishes it and it's usually not that bad to cite.
Wait, is qiaocollective bad? Or are they good? I've never heard of the other one, but read a lot of qiao
I thought that was basically the consensus here? I haven't seen many or any references to the latter, and I'm pretty online. So these posts are definitely cherry picked.
oh my mistake, i was taking a break for a while then this was one of the first things that showed up lol
Good for calling it out though, I wouldn't have known.
