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Those of us who oppose Western militarism and atrocities committed by Western allies must also stand in solidarity with China's Uighur Muslims.https://t.co/DarOxemAHN— Owen Jones 🌹 (@OwenJones84) January 21, 2021

Typical British reptile, too much of a bloodless coward to admit he's an imperialist:

In response to some people responding to this quite bizarrely claiming that I supported the West's war in Libya - no, I did not

You posted it the day after the bombing started.

https://twitter.com/bot_nabq/status/1352409294357090309

Hi! I opposed the Western war on Libya, well done on finding a tweet supporting the initial uprising though!

If Gaddafi was a "savage dictator", the rebels the West helped were good and them overthrowing Gadaffi was something to be desired, it made no sense to oppose the West assisting their effort. Half the arguments in that article could just as easily be arguments for more interventions

here's an article about these class traitors: https://www.jonathan-cook.net/blog/2021-01-22/lessons-iraq-libya-syria-cheer-war/

  • JoeySteel [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    You can have a critical stance of Xinjiang only first when you've acknowledged that China has a legitimate terrorist and security concern in that region with a number of terrorist attacks and separatists funded by USA

    And secondly you can have that conversation when you've acknowledged that the one of the three reasons the US is in Afghanistan "is to impact power on China and have the CIA run arms and funds to groups like the ETIM (East Turkestan Islamic Movement) who are jihadis and have fought all over the ME for Al Qaeda/ISIS/Al Nusra and the US was bombing ETIM as early as 2 years ago

    Thirdly we can have that conversation when it's recognised the US supports separatists in Xinjiang

    No one should take anything the Americans or British say about human rights without them being laughed off the face of the planet. The same people have dropped depleted uranium on fallujah where birth defects are worse than Hiroshima, that have dropped bombs on muslims for literally 3 decades straight, caused untold suffering to the world forcing them to flee their homes and countries, set up "black site" rendition centres to torture people. Left them langusihing in prisons like Guantanamo for decades with no right to a trial

    When all this has been acknowledged we can maybe discuss how whether China has been heavy handed in doing things like "forcing people to attend trade schools so they can get jobs and lead productive lives instead of languishing in poverty and being susceptible to being radicalised by Wahhabist (a Saudi/American export) islamist ideology)" instead of outright murdering, displacing them and torturing them like the West has done

      • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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        4 years ago

        Theres gonna need to be more examples than just "Destruction of culture", "denial of right to cultural practices/religious freedoms" and especially "cases of arbitrary murders", you cant just make generalized statements here.

          • JoeySteel [comrade/them]
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            4 years ago

            Clicked your first link and its same old horseshit propaganda Cgtn did an entire show debunking this "destruction of grave sites"

            Traditional Uyghur graves were built poorly (little more than dirt mounds) and dogs were getting at the bodies so they rebuilt pristine beautiful graves in the same area and respectfully moved the bodies

            Im not inclined to believe anything you say

              • JoeySteel [comrade/them]
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                4 years ago

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXBIeKpUq_c

                There you go. You can see the pristine graves that were built for them and the shambolic conditions they were originally were in (the "dust grave mounds").

                Ironically this isn't even news in Western countries. There are many cases where local authorities will move grave sites to make way for railway lines or roads. What the local authorities did here wasn't even for purposes of infrastructure but for purposes of public health and provided pristine, decent and solid graves for the people to pay their respects to instead of unmarked "dust mounds". They were made of mud and wear away in wind and rain whilst cats and dogs would get at the bodies.

                You should honestly do some self-crit ("no investigation no right to speak") before propagating a wall of imperialist propaganda you yourself haven't done the thread barest to investigate

          • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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            4 years ago

            Eyewitness reports are frankly not something to take seriously in any case of the west promoting a story, there needs to be hard evidence before any eyewitness reports should be taken into account purely because of how long the record of atrocity propaganda is. There are some who tell a "consistent" story with others but then there are also others who flat out change their stories entirely months after first speaking.

      • OneToughNerd [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Some sources would be awesome besides "I totally know someone". Phrases like "right to cultural practices" are straight out of a reactionaries toolkit, especially when you repeatedly bring up "foot binding" which isn't even a Uygher practice!!!

    • emizeko [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      I'd like to re-use this, can I ask would you mind fixing the link at the end of paragraph two

    • spectre [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I agree with everything you said except the last paragraph