Ngl didn't see that coming.

  • vorenza [any]
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    4 years ago

    People getting excited for this seem pretty sad to me honestly, 70 year old man with no political or cultural relevance(anymore) says some good things about "socialism"(see: social democracy) and everybody cheers him up.

    • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      This is a perfect example of where critical support is appropriate. You should never buy into Jesse Ventura, but talking about the problems of capitalism (and calling it capitalism) is good, telling people that socialism is a better alternative is good, and getting these messages through to people who Jesse Ventura connects with is good.

    • Audeamus [any]
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      4 years ago

      with no political or cultural relevance(anymore)

      Seriously? He has more influence than most podcasters or Tweeters you listen to probably. Especially among blue-collar/older/Independent people who're never going to read Marx or learn what a pronoun is.

      At the very least, he's a bellwether. People who looked up to him in his prime, people still in his subculture will think similarly. And that's good.

      • vorenza [any]
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        4 years ago

        If i ever claim that podcasters i listen to has cultural relevance, shoot me in the head because i've probably gone insane

        I'm sure those blue-collar people listen to RT regularly

        • sysgen [none/use name,they/them]
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          4 years ago

          Jesse Ventura is still a former governor and there are a lot of people that know about him. He does have some cultural relevance.

          Also, many blue collar people aren't that opposed to Russia.

          • vorenza [any]
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            4 years ago

            Also, many blue collar people aren’t that opposed to Russia.

            It has nothing to do with that, i don't have the exact data but i don't think RT has a non-negligable audience in those demographics

    • RalphGrenader [comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      Can't you just enjoy something funny? Does life always be to be such a fucking downer?

      • vorenza [any]
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        4 years ago

        How am i supposed to enjoy this? This just shows that left's power is so low that Jesse Ventura saying "socialism good" gets people excited.

        • shitstorm [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          I've seen pictures of poop on pig's balls with more upvotes here than this post. People here will get excited about whatever weird shit, a former US governor saying nice things about socialism is something you literally would not have seen ten years ago.

        • pepe_silvia96 [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          I'm enjoying this because I used to listen to opie & anthony radio where they would make fun of the guy for being a conspiracy nutjob. he had a hilarious show back in the day; they once tried to sneak into a 9/11 museum to test shit for thermite paint.

          also he's the former governor of Minnesota ya know?

          imo alex jones/qanon people are closer to radicalization than the folks who are inspired by shit like this :liberalism:

          Ventura might be some kind of proof of that. but yea, his platform doesnt mean shit.

            • pepe_silvia96 [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              yea, I mean I'm certainly not the type to believe in the power of persuasive arguments, especially over the internet.

              I think the main way I got into the right->left lib->marxist pipeline was through watching yt videos of people making fun of dummy conservative pundits and the recommendations algorithm making me watch similar shit in order to make me watch more ads.

              this kind of shift is very gradual imo, and even when I look back at my shift to the right back in 2016 it was similar. I was pretty much entirely at the mercy of content creators and some algorithm.

              in conclusion, we need to find a communist Alex Jones. chuds would love that shit.

        • RalphGrenader [comrade/them]
          hexagon
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          4 years ago

          "They still have capital punishment (and we should use it on the rich)" is fucking awesome.

    • late90smullbowl [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Are you for real? The guy used the word Socialism in a positive context and is advocating against billionaires. He's got a platform and some residual clout with boomers. Anything that will make them think is positive and exciting and an opportunity. Do you ever talk to chuds? getting thru to them is nigh impossible, their media is designed that way. This is a rare in.