Jesus Christ why aren't we fighting back on this dipshit

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      Also I'm gay, drama is like Gatorade in that it fuels my electrolytes

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      We really need to have someone like him pushing back on this shit and posting reams of content, I can't stand that people are getting poisoned by this dumbfuck

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        Well then what are you waiting for? You thrive on drama, you hate these grifters. Be the gay communist YouTuber you want to see in the world. Gay Hobbes is already a pretty good YouTube personality name.

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    god i cant stand listening to this fucker. hes basically tj kirk but with a radical aesthetic and less self awareness

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    Jesus Christ why aren’t we fighting back on this dipshit

    Idk, the only time I ever hear anyone other than his sycophantic fans talk about him or bring him up at all is to point out that he said something really stupid and dunk on him. I'm not sure what you're even talking about lol

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      He dominates r/breadtube now, and his acolytes are starting to pop up

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        yeah if you post anything anti-vaush it gets removed really

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          He fucking shows up on r/breadtube all the time to defend himself too, I hate it.

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          Okay, but do we just let that sit and produce more pro-West socdems calling themselves leftists or do we hijack that for our own pipeline?

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            I mean if you have a plan to do that then good luck I guess, but like people don't adopt an ideology because they heard a really good argument in the free marketplace of ideas. That's lib shit. Material conditions define the ideologies that someone will adopt.

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    You don't. You ignore this. Internet 'politics' is all drama and conflict staying forever unresolved because it is disconnected from real life. It plays out in a world based on distorted information generated IRL and severed from consequences in the material realm, where takes are the only input that matters. Log off and embrace grill pill thought: only post to have fun with the boys

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      I dunno, you don't think there's no real consequence for 200,000 people (probably in reality a tenth of that though) being poisoned constantly on the evils of MLs or what

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        Considering that there is no irl ML presence in the West, this guy has to be in conflict with online MLs which only politics addicted media consumers care about. That means this will be an entirely sterile battle of takes with no consequences in real life. It is a distraction, a spectacle which subconsciously reinforces the idea that politics online matters. Everyone involved in this is better off posting about monkeys or watching movies.

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    lol holy shit it's bad.. thanks for posting, it's good to get some context without having to actually try and watch his trash.

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    jesus

    • defending pedophilia

    • calling trans people mentally ill

    • calling the left 'weak' for caring about people or something

    • defending the use of the n word

    • and more

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      And yet there's someone way below defending him to me saying that, well, he may call trans people mentally ill, but he says trans rights on stream so it's okay!

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        smh anarchists told me they were immune to cults of personality

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          lmao right? Also he accused tankies of not supporting CHAZ/CHOP while literally saying CHAZ/CHOP was 'bad optics'. Fuck him.

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            i get called a tankie for being a non-sectarian marxist these days. life is wild.

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              That's the Vaush(tm) influence right there, they think anyone to the left of a bastardized, misunderstood version of Kropotkin is a tankie. He punches left CONSTANTLY.

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                its really wild to me that people look at that guy and immediately want to take advice from him on their worldviews though

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                  His hair alone should tell you he is not trustworthy.

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        yeah for every bad take in this video he has 3 200k views videos on his channel where he verbally beats the shit out of transphobes for their bad takes. And racists, and conservatives. And people who are all three.

        Honest question, should he stop doing videos?

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          Absolutely he should, or at least read some fucking theory and stop punching left and going on these odd rants that are indistinguishable from something a right-wing person would say.

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      Why is he popular?

      Because he is funny, has good takes and he rakes in the liberals. He is a good comrade. Watch him for longer than 10 minutes please before jumping to conclusions.

      I agree that he doesn't appeal to hardcore lefties who can't once excuse him saying femoids and that's okay.

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        Uh his little rant on trans people alone is disgusting, my dude

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          I have listened to him for so many hours and it is a mystery to me how you could think he's transphobic.

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              I have seen most of it live or in the VOD and I agree with most.

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                  I have seen most of this clip live or in the VOD and I agree with most. It's heavily edited here of course and without context.

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                    So when he talks about trans women who he claims are mentally ill disagreeing with him, that's totally cool with you?

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                      Many leftists, including me are suffering from depression, so do trans leftists of course.

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                        He's guessing. He's sliming them as mentally ill because they disagree with him.

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                          Yeah he sounds kinda unhinged in that particular part of the video but let's be honest his ratio of good takes vs bad takes still is very good. He does so many hours of content there's going to be times where you aren't at your best. He often feels betrayed by people who say he isn't woke enough, he uses slurs and whatever while he daily deals with the worst humans in existence who literally want to gas him and other lefties for being gay.

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                            let’s be honest his ratio of good takes vs bad takes still is very good.

                            Is it?

                            He often feels betrayed by people who say he isn’t woke enough, he uses slurs and whatever

                            Uh.

                            he daily deals with the worst humans in existence who literally want to gas him and other lefties for being gay.

                            I dunno like, I seem to do a lot of that myself without accusing trans women of being mentally ill.

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                              Wait we already established that many trans people are mentally ill and there's nothing wrong with that. It would be even harder to deal with this shitty hellworld for me as well if I were trans.

                              Idk what are we trying to achieve with this discussion? It's fine if you don't like vaush and I even get it if he offends you, but please let's accept that he calls himself leftist and anarchist, he actually does it and has 200k subs and talks about leftism 24/7, does it well and changes many peoples minds. I would prefer if he never said the f-slur but he does and apparently it works for him.

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                                so i'm trans. there's nothing that pisses me off more than hearing a supposed 'leftist' and 'comrade' using the same smears against trans people that neocons use. it feels like youre a two-faced fascist prop. if liberals can get one small thing right, why cant you?

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                                We didn’t establish that at all. Vaush is using mental illness as a smear. There’s no reason to mention it and he doesn’t talk about it compassionately or factually. He’s using it to discredit people who apparently bother him.

                                He actually does what? What does he do? What’s he converting people if he bashes tankies and trans people while not understanding theory? What good is he actually doing in the world? It horrifies me that 200k people hear his garbage.

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                                  He actually does what? What does he do?

                                  He exposes a ton of normal people to leftist ideas and actually passionately fights for the rights of trans AND mentally ill people.

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                                    What does he do to fight for their rights? And again, what ideas is he spreading if he says a bunch of trans people are the worst he runs across online?

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                                      this will be my last answer to this thread because like I said, it's pointless.

                                      He said this ONCE, while otherwise fighting for trans people.

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                                          idk stream and talk about trans rights for 5 hours per day to 100k viewers?

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                                                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_rights

                                                  https://www.aclu.org/issues/lgbt-rights/transgender-rights

                                                  it's fine to ask if you don't know something, a quick search online would have helped :slightly smiling face:

                                                  To me it's most important to change the minds of people, some people are seriously bigoted unfortunately

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                                                    Those links are useless. What are the rights from a leftist point of view?

                                                    Yes, including Vaush with his nasty take on trans people he doesn’t agree with.

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            dude, he literally just called all trans people mentally ill and a detriment to the left. he said the lgbt community should be expelled from the left and ignored. he's ok with the spread of child porn, and defended the use of the N word. hes a conservative in every way.