By redeemable I mean working class types that know the system is fucked, but through a myriad of reasons go “ew it’s the “insert whatever minority group/conspiracy theory” as oppose to the petite bourgeois or outright fascist types. They get the Minecraft level up
Some Soviet design for your trouble
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I consider both proletariat and lumpenproletariat as a state of mind. And also different from the regular working class. Proletariat are the class aware working people, they are part of the revolutionary class. Lumpenproletariat are the irredeemable and unconvincable chuds, who will align themselves with the reactionaries every time. The working class is undecided.
That's my take, anyway. There's no particular set of conditions that defines them, but certainly one or the other are more common in certain professions and oppressed groups.
You are correct but doesn’t have quite the same ring to it as CHUD
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