It doesn't make a difference though, Biden isn't "harm reduction".
If you're hoping he wins then you should be voting for him, that's what voting is. But don't fucking vote for him or hope he wins, because he's a right-wing rapist.
It's not the damn moral choice. Voting for either is immoral. "Harm reduction" is revisionist bullshit that ignores the fact that liberals enable fascists.
I'm not convinced which one will be worse for the future of humanity yet, and thinking about it is disgusting so I just try to avoid thinking about it, I won't be voting so fuck it. Terrified of 4 years of biden doing 10x more to enrage the right and quell the left than 8 years of obama did
I think back on the obama years and what I see are every lib and person who could manage to ignoring absolutely everything and just pretending it was the end of history, racism is over, we won yay, and then not paying attention to anything at all or caring because they were comfortable enough to easily ignore all the monster shit obama and the dems were up to, and the right organized.
I worry about that same apathy, that same excuse to look away and ignore everything and pretend it's fine coming back and weakening the center left and strengthening the right even more.
Like I said, I don't know if this is an especially valid worry, as I'm a relatively new leftist with enormous holes in my historical context, but again I'm not voting so I don't have to care, just have to wait to see who wins for what I do next
It is a valid worry. Biden winning means the Democratic Party accepts conservatism as their new norm. It's another lurch to the right to catch up with Republicans. It does zero good.
The democratic party only accepts conservatism as their new norm, because most of the US is a fucking right-wing hellhole and they are afraid that they have to be very much to the right to win any election.
One is going to win though, I think is his point.
It doesn't make a difference though, Biden isn't "harm reduction".
If you're hoping he wins then you should be voting for him, that's what voting is. But don't fucking vote for him or hope he wins, because he's a right-wing rapist.
I never said that it would be a difference comrade, and again I'm not voting for either like I said
sure he is a right-wing rapist. But not voting for him would enable a far worse right-wing rapist.
There is no "far worse". They are both shit, they both lead us down the same path to fascism.
Even if that were true voting democrat would reduce harm on the way to fascism.
No, it doesn't. Yemen still gets bombed, kids still get put in cages.
sure
What do we do about that? Build momentum with a leftist movement?
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that's what I am here for, yeah
Nah, you're here telling us to vote for fuckin Biden. You aren't doing shit.
wait what? So just because we disagree here I am "not doing shit"?
oh they are just mad that the moral choice is to vote for a rapist and let's be honest, I can understand that
It's not the damn moral choice. Voting for either is immoral. "Harm reduction" is revisionist bullshit that ignores the fact that liberals enable fascists.
best take yet
Voting for fascists or fascist enablers is immoral, yes.
I'm not convinced which one will be worse for the future of humanity yet, and thinking about it is disgusting so I just try to avoid thinking about it, I won't be voting so fuck it. Terrified of 4 years of biden doing 10x more to enrage the right and quell the left than 8 years of obama did
There is 0 proof that a biden presidency would "enrage" the right. Trumps term has enabled the right sooooo much.
Besides Bidens entire career
I'm terrified of that possibility not convinced of its reality, y'know?
Edit: whoever is downvoting all of kaka's comments knock it off, are you 12?
don't worry about it, I knew what I was getting into
not really
I think back on the obama years and what I see are every lib and person who could manage to ignoring absolutely everything and just pretending it was the end of history, racism is over, we won yay, and then not paying attention to anything at all or caring because they were comfortable enough to easily ignore all the monster shit obama and the dems were up to, and the right organized.
I worry about that same apathy, that same excuse to look away and ignore everything and pretend it's fine coming back and weakening the center left and strengthening the right even more.
Like I said, I don't know if this is an especially valid worry, as I'm a relatively new leftist with enormous holes in my historical context, but again I'm not voting so I don't have to care, just have to wait to see who wins for what I do next
It is a valid worry. Biden winning means the Democratic Party accepts conservatism as their new norm. It's another lurch to the right to catch up with Republicans. It does zero good.
The democratic party only accepts conservatism as their new norm, because most of the US is a fucking right-wing hellhole and they are afraid that they have to be very much to the right to win any election.
The only thing they are afraid of is having to move left. They are happy to move right.
I even agree. This goes for both parties though and the republicans already are on alex jones levels of stupid to stay more to the right.
Yeah, and if Biden wins, after his term the Democrats will move there too. Hell, Russiagate is already dabbling in conspiracy theory idiocy.
Hoping a fascist enabler wins is liberalism.
Sanders as president would have been a fascist enabler as well and you know it. Why would it have been ok then?
Trying to stop the country's constant march to the right = enabling fascism somehow?
He's enabling fascism now by supporting Biden though, so fuck him.