Also, how fucking funny is it that he was on their advisory council lol.
The dude literally has zero accomplishments except getting to 300k Twitter followers by stanning Elizabeth Warren and doing lib shit -- this somehow means he gets to be an advisor to a "leftist" party lmao.
For those unaware of what's going on, the People's Party recently decided to drop "socialism" from their platform and focus on "progressive populism" that will unite the left and the right hahahaha.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ProudSocialist/status/1358179529894760449
His accomplishment is stepping down from their advisory council. So critical support I guess
Idk what to think of him, but him stepping down because of principles is good.
Less than a year ago his Twitter wasn't ProudSocialist, it was ProudLiberal. Idk about principles with this one.
I personally don't like him. Some of the stuff isn't his fault -- like, he might've genuinely went through the Warren to Bernie to Socialism pipeline in the span of 3 months but I really don't like that that somehow means he should be an important voice in socialist circles -- again, it's not his fault if he gets invited to "advisory councils" or various podcast, etc.
Some of the other stuff is his fault though -- like the whole force the vote thing, he was pushing that hardcore and it just didn't sit well for me that he gets to call anyone a lib or whatever, like, you're in the position you're in right now because you did the lib Twitter grift and got 300k followers out of it, you can't now act like you're some hardcore Marxist when you've just dipped your toes into leftism.
I really don’t like that that somehow means he should be an important voice in socialist circles
It's basically cyclical at this point. He's an important voice because he's an important voice. Basically because he got a bunch of followers then went socialist, he's more important (in some senses) than you or me.
'advisory council'
im sure its a discord call where he gets basically ignored
That's literally what my local People's Party is right now :agony-turbo:
For those unaware of what’s going on, the People’s Party recently decided to drop “socialism” from their platform and focus on “progressive populism” that will unite the left and the right hahahaha.
People's Party? More like the Jimmy Dore Party.
He used to stan Warren until she dropped out, then he switched to Bernie and suddenly became a "proud socialist."
Fair points but I don't think people understand how hard it is get a third party working just even at a state level, let alone getting all 50 states to allow you on the ballot. This isn't going to happen any time soon, let alone within the next presidential election. It would have been smarter of him to actually attempt to build off what is already there like the green party.
I'm not confident in this dude at all, his ideology sways faster than the wind blows. He was smart for ditching the people's party, I'll had him that, but does anyone here genuinely believe this guy can form a new party to his standards? Getting something like that off the ground has took decades in some cases, why should we assume this will be any different.
He became proud socialist after an insane number of people started attacking and doxxing him once he switched to Bernie to Warren after New Hampshire (so before she formally dropped out). Like his so called long time friend got his podcasts defunded for supporting Bernie and criticizing democrats.
The PP is the major conservative party in Spain (Partido Popular) and I can't not read PP as that party.
A far right member of the Conservative party in Canada founded the people's party over here to be more explicitly fascist. It was so funny when they not only failed to get any seats, but that move lost the founder's parliamentary seat.
also our resident joke party ran a candidate against him with the exact same name
I'm glad rhino party is back. They haven't been the same since their push to repeal the law of gravity failed.
i mean he thinks the DSA is worthless and "skipped" over it. His argument being that it's unworkable since it still works within the dem party, which is a fair critique, but there isn't any other org with their reach and structure currently like the DSA. Part of me feels like he wants to be the face or a co-chair of whatever org he latches onto next. It is good he is transforming but he comes off as more of an opportunist than anything to me. His ego is fairly massive if you actually follow his posts and what he says. Most of us here have our own critiques of gripes with the DSA but every local chapter can be different in good or bad ways, writing it off entirely isn't smart or practical to me.
The DSA electing people as democrats isn't a problem at all. Political parties in the US are much more comparable to coalition governments that you see in other countries anyways (otherwise we wouldn't even have localized primaries happening to begin with).
The DSA is worthless. Entryism into the Democratic party is worthless, and that's what the DSA is all about. If you say we should change that you are basically trying to do entryism into an entryist organization to make it not entryist. It's all worthless.
His argument being that it’s unworkable since it still works within the dem party, which is a fair critique, but there isn’t any other org with their reach and structure currently like the DSA.
They are party agnostic, so I'm not really sure the critique is fair. DSA members usually run as Dems because that's the easiest way to win, but they have no official ties to the Dems and they've backed candidates from other parties before. That being said, electoralism is really only a small part of what the DSA really does.
Fun fact: People´s party is the name of the spanish conservative party.
The second I saw that banner behind the guy on Jimmy Dore's show I was thinking this is the most internet thing I've ever seen.
