Really makes you wonder about private media :thinkin-lenin: guess we will never know

  • RNAi [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    It's probably better cuz I get to read less nuclear radlibs takes from Michigan about what's akchually going on in my continent.

    Ah re que siempre opino sobre la política de otros países.

    • Wojackhorseman2 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Me imagino que estás más informado que unos gringos en Michigan, especialmente los que leen las noticias de la media estadounidense

  • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Dear God, protect this wave of leftists in South America. If the USA is gonna be a shitshow, at least let us fail at dragging them down with us.

    • opposide [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      The worst thing about trump leaving the White House might be that we have an admininstration which is semi-competent in going back to crushing socialism in the Western Hemisphere

      • queenjamie [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        I dunno, I think that the 4 years of Trump gave China enough breathing room to really start taking off. Especially with how well it handled Covid. This may have signaled those Latin American countries that they need not always fear the looming US machine.

      • Nationalgoatism [any]
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        4 years ago

        On the other hand, that is assuming Biden can find Ecuador on a map

  • Chutt_Buggins [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    If it goes down to the wire and needs verification from their courts, wouldn't the left be fucked anyways because there was basically a right-wing judicial coup in Ecuador in the last few years?

      • RedDawn [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I’m not sure Arauz will win against Perez in the runoff. He certainly would have beaten Lasso, but all of the Lasso voters from first round will be going to Perez. That would already bring Perez up to close to 40% to Arauz 32%. I’m not sure how the votees for the other candidates would break between Arauz and Perez.

          • RedDawn [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Yeah my experience with Lasso voters is that they are above all anti-correistas and would vote for anybody to stop Arauz. The ones I know were voting for Lasso over any of the other 15 candidates in the first round because they were worried that the split vote would lead to Arauz winning in the first round

              • RedDawn [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                Keep in mind I’m not Ecuadorian, but I’ve spent a decent amount of time there and know a lot of Ecuadorians, I was there during the protests. The Lasso voters I know are primarily against Correismo. They hate Correa, they believe all of the many fabricated criminal charges against him are true, they believe if Arauz wins he will turn the country into “another Venezuela”. They take their cues from right wing private media, even some of the Ecuadorian Americans I know who are liberal voters in the US are willing to vote for right wingers in Ecuador to stop Correa from coming back.

                There is definitely some racism from these people against the indigenous. During the protests when Jaime Nebot (the right wing mayor of Guayaquil) said the natives should go back to the jungle I remember these people defending it as not racist “that is where they came from after all”. But their anti-socialist indoctrination outweighs the racism in my opinion, and they’ll be voting for Yaku.

                Voting is also “mandatory” so even when the populace is fairly apathetic about the choices being offered, as is the case this year, turnout is high anyway so I wouldn’t count on the Lasso voters simply abstaining.

  • CommieElon [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    It’s funny how South America swings to the left whenever the American media uses the words coups and authoritarian. Almost like South Americans like these candidates??

    • astigmatic [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      the crazy thing is that correismo never actually lost! lenin moreno changed colors the second he was president, but he was elected as a correista. just as with evo and bolivia where the opposition didnt actually win an election. and in the places where they DID win and beat back the pink tide a little (argentina, brazil, honduras, paraguay) it was usually accompanied by phony criminal investigations, and at least in argentina fernandez/peronismo made it back to power as soon as they were cleared (and in honduras of course they were robbed in the 2017 election)

      uruguay and el salvador were also lost recently but circumstances are a bit different. chile’s been doing a sad back and forth between piñera and bachelet but hopefully jadue will break them out of that

      • CommieElon [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I remember someone from Uruguay said their lost wasn’t that big of a deal because the right’s policies aren’t popular and they did r win by much either.

  • Ryan_Holman [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Don't get me wrong, it is in the corporate media's interest to downplay or malign left-wing movements and politicians.

    That being said, it's not like the politics of Ecuador get covered that heavily in mainstream American media to begin with.

          • Oni [any,comrade/them]
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            4 years ago

            can you explain this, the wikipedia doesn't say anything about Anaconda being under state control, unless I missed something

            • poppy_apocalypse [he/him, any]
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              4 years ago

              From wikipedia: The nationalized Chilean mines were kept under state control after Pinochet's 1973 Chilean coup d'état, despite the junta's pro-U.S. leanings, and this is still the case, largely because of public sentiment and because Codelco is a major contributor to the Chilean Exchequer. Codelco pays income tax, all dividends go to the government and it also pays a 10% tax on the export value of copper products and associated byproducts according to Law 13,136.

              • Oni [any,comrade/them]
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                4 years ago

                I see, thanks. So why didn't they privatize them? Because Pinochet wanted the profits for his own government?

  • superdoctorman [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Does anyone know anything about the Indigenous-rights candidate he is up against?