Really makes you wonder about private media :thinkin-lenin: guess we will never know
It's probably better cuz I get to read less nuclear radlibs takes from Michigan about what's akchually going on in my continent.
Ah re que siempre opino sobre la política de otros países.
Me imagino que estás más informado que unos gringos en Michigan, especialmente los que leen las noticias de la media estadounidense
Dear God, protect this wave of leftists in South America. If the USA is gonna be a shitshow, at least let us fail at dragging them down with us.
The worst thing about trump leaving the White House might be that we have an admininstration which is semi-competent in going back to crushing socialism in the Western Hemisphere
I dunno, I think that the 4 years of Trump gave China enough breathing room to really start taking off. Especially with how well it handled Covid. This may have signaled those Latin American countries that they need not always fear the looming US machine.
On the other hand, that is assuming Biden can find Ecuador on a map
If it goes down to the wire and needs verification from their courts, wouldn't the left be fucked anyways because there was basically a right-wing judicial coup in Ecuador in the last few years?
I’m not sure Arauz will win against Perez in the runoff. He certainly would have beaten Lasso, but all of the Lasso voters from first round will be going to Perez. That would already bring Perez up to close to 40% to Arauz 32%. I’m not sure how the votees for the other candidates would break between Arauz and Perez.
Yeah my experience with Lasso voters is that they are above all anti-correistas and would vote for anybody to stop Arauz. The ones I know were voting for Lasso over any of the other 15 candidates in the first round because they were worried that the split vote would lead to Arauz winning in the first round
Keep in mind I’m not Ecuadorian, but I’ve spent a decent amount of time there and know a lot of Ecuadorians, I was there during the protests. The Lasso voters I know are primarily against Correismo. They hate Correa, they believe all of the many fabricated criminal charges against him are true, they believe if Arauz wins he will turn the country into “another Venezuela”. They take their cues from right wing private media, even some of the Ecuadorian Americans I know who are liberal voters in the US are willing to vote for right wingers in Ecuador to stop Correa from coming back.
There is definitely some racism from these people against the indigenous. During the protests when Jaime Nebot (the right wing mayor of Guayaquil) said the natives should go back to the jungle I remember these people defending it as not racist “that is where they came from after all”. But their anti-socialist indoctrination outweighs the racism in my opinion, and they’ll be voting for Yaku.
Voting is also “mandatory” so even when the populace is fairly apathetic about the choices being offered, as is the case this year, turnout is high anyway so I wouldn’t count on the Lasso voters simply abstaining.
The ultimate dream is they all become Venezuela and form a USSR out of the entire continent haha
Hoping Arauz can still pull it out. Would have been much easier to beat Lasso imo since probably at least half of the Perez voters in the first round would have gone to Arauz in the second
It’s funny how South America swings to the left whenever the American media uses the words coups and authoritarian. Almost like South Americans like these candidates??
the crazy thing is that correismo never actually lost! lenin moreno changed colors the second he was president, but he was elected as a correista. just as with evo and bolivia where the opposition didnt actually win an election. and in the places where they DID win and beat back the pink tide a little (argentina, brazil, honduras, paraguay) it was usually accompanied by phony criminal investigations, and at least in argentina fernandez/peronismo made it back to power as soon as they were cleared (and in honduras of course they were robbed in the 2017 election)
uruguay and el salvador were also lost recently but circumstances are a bit different. chile’s been doing a sad back and forth between piñera and bachelet but hopefully jadue will break them out of that
I remember someone from Uruguay said their lost wasn’t that big of a deal because the right’s policies aren’t popular and they did r win by much either.
Don't get me wrong, it is in the corporate media's interest to downplay or malign left-wing movements and politicians.
That being said, it's not like the politics of Ecuador get covered that heavily in mainstream American media to begin with.
I don't know enough because I'm a US American but I do know about Allende and Pinochet and how my libertarian econ prof though Chile's free market economy was just the best thing ever... so a Jadue win would be so sweet. And the Chilean protests seemed based af.
Ask your professor why Pinochet and the Chicago Boys kept Anaconda under state control after the coup
Well... I graduated over 15 years ago and haven't spoken to him since, I wouldn't be surprised if he was dead by now (inshallah).
can you explain this, the wikipedia doesn't say anything about Anaconda being under state control, unless I missed something
From wikipedia: The nationalized Chilean mines were kept under state control after Pinochet's 1973 Chilean coup d'état, despite the junta's pro-U.S. leanings, and this is still the case, largely because of public sentiment and because Codelco is a major contributor to the Chilean Exchequer. Codelco pays income tax, all dividends go to the government and it also pays a 10% tax on the export value of copper products and associated byproducts according to Law 13,136.
I see, thanks. So why didn't they privatize them? Because Pinochet wanted the profits for his own government?
You mean that he would keep the funds from the mines rolling in to settle national debt or whatever, and then present that balance as a result of cost cutting in the public sphere?
To keep the country functioning and to show the world that austerity works.
thanks for working it out with me comrade, time to push back in my Globalization class :marx-ok:
Don't worry, with time John Bolton will tell you what terrible dictators all of them are
Does anyone know anything about the Indigenous-rights candidate he is up against?
The other guy is very pro-America which is never something I want to hear
https://twitter.com/OVargas52/status/1359173946541760515
his party is good, they rightfully got a massive popularity boost out of leading the protest movement of the last few years. the dude is a serious right wing stooge though who the powers that be forced as their candidate
Yeah the rest of the party does not like him much, and CONAEI (which is the indigenous movement as a whole) itself also does not. However, a lot of indigenous will vote for him most likely because of how pissed (rightfully too) the indigenous communities are at Arauz and Perez is for all his right wing pro US talk still saying he will throw the IMF out of the country and cease extraction operations in the interior. Correa supporters have really long term fucked their relations with indigenous living inland with their extraction policies and it's likely the conflicts with CONAEI will continue to escalate regardless of who wins the election.
Pérez certainly seems better than the openly neoliberal candidate Lasso, who appears to have lost the first round; however, it's important to remember that he had actually supported Guillermo Lasso's candidacy in the 2017 presidential elections. Lasso has also reportedly said he’d support Pérez in the 2nd round. There unfortunately are a plethora of red flags with Yaku Pérez:
There seems to be a serious disconnect between Pérez and CONAIE with its rank and file.
Yaku Pérez has a lot of comments that raise doubt about his purported leftist credentials:
According to Leonidas Iza, an indigenous leader and president of the Indigenous and Peasant Movement of Cotopaxi, Evo Morales did not invite Yaku Pérez to the inauguration because the Pachakutik candidate celebrated the right-wing dictatorship in Bolivia. Pérez also never condemned the Anez regime's massacre against indigenous protestors. He has instead accused Morales and Correa of “authoritarianism, machismo, extractivism, and populism.” Evo has backed Aruaz. Yaku rooted for the socialist Maduro and Correa governments to "fall":
“Now all that’s missing is for Rafael Correa and Maduro to fall. It is just a matter of time.”
Guess we should appreciate how consent isn't being manufactured, at least.
