Pretty sure they identified covid in Italy and Spain prior to December 2019 in some tests they did in 2020. Completely not surprised that covid may not have originated in China given the Wuhan/China flu crap they were trying to start back in March.
In the end, it doesn't really matter where it originated. China and Vietnam showed us how to deal with it. The West fucked up its response and continues to fuck up a year later, not stopping for even one second to distribute masks or sanitizer or food and so on - and at least other countries got stimulus or monthly payments but the US fucked that up to for a year and probably will for the rest of 2021. Hopefully the West's fuck up doesn't act as reservoir and incubator for covid variants that are immune to the vaccines that are currently released, although as I understand we already have a variant that's immune to the oxford vaccine.
Pretty sure they identified covid in Italy and Spain prior to December 2019 in some tests they did in 2020. Completely not surprised that covid may not have originated in China given the Wuhan/China flu crap they were trying to start back in March.
Completely disingenuous x2. Neither of these statements is accurate. Brain on next to zero media literacy.
There are no reproducible results of the water samples, and no genealogical traces linking Covid-19 anywhere before the outbreak in Wuhan. And also, this doesn't add any weight to it not originating in China.
Yeah there were a couple of articles worth raising an eyebrow at, but they were and remain far from anywhere near definitive until more research is done. They are not proof unto themselves, just something worth raising an eyebrow at at maximum.
Raising an eyebrow, sure. But when the first half dozen comments in this thread are pushing the same ill-begotten narrative, that should raise the other eyebrow.
You can generally trace the stacking mutations in these kinds virus since it occurs commonly enough. They’ll stack and you can kind of following the trajectory of how it evolves. Genealogy is a term I haven’t really considered to describe this but I suppose it works.
That’s how they were first able to confirm reinfection because the sequences were different across both infections.
Anyone who's talking shit about @bigbooppaul, knock it off. He's literally combatting liberalism by speaking up when he saw something a comrade said that was wrong. To say see comrades say incorrect things and say nothing is a form of liberalism.
Saying that, I had read about the Italy thing in the Tumori journal back in 2020. It was a scientific article and study that reported that anti-covid antibodies had been detected in the blood of Italian people some time before November 2019. I'm not a big science guy but it seemed legit, it was connected to an italian medical university and the study authors seemed legitimate. You seem to be knowledgeable, is Tumori a legitimate medical science journal?
Also, my bad about the Spanish claim. I should have done better reading about that, because yeah it doesnt seem as legitimate.
But overall, I dont think where it comes from matters as much as how to respond. Pandemics have been with us so long, I dont think we will be able to eliminate the chance of one this century. The best we can do is prepare and respond with justice. I had hoped to focus more on how to respond to covid rather than quibbling on its origin.
Lol, my feelings aren't hurt and I also don't really care if I'm dunked on. Being corrected normally hurts and there's ways of doing it gently and ways of doing that dirtbag style.
Pretty sure they identified covid in Italy and Spain prior to December 2019 in some tests they did in 2020. Completely not surprised that covid may not have originated in China given the Wuhan/China flu crap they were trying to start back in March.
In the end, it doesn't really matter where it originated. China and Vietnam showed us how to deal with it. The West fucked up its response and continues to fuck up a year later, not stopping for even one second to distribute masks or sanitizer or food and so on - and at least other countries got stimulus or monthly payments but the US fucked that up to for a year and probably will for the rest of 2021. Hopefully the West's fuck up doesn't act as reservoir and incubator for covid variants that are immune to the vaccines that are currently released, although as I understand we already have a variant that's immune to the oxford vaccine.
Completely disingenuous x2. Neither of these statements is accurate. Brain on next to zero media literacy.
There are no reproducible results of the water samples, and no genealogical traces linking Covid-19 anywhere before the outbreak in Wuhan. And also, this doesn't add any weight to it not originating in China.
Propaganda baby bath water.
Yeah there were a couple of articles worth raising an eyebrow at, but they were and remain far from anywhere near definitive until more research is done. They are not proof unto themselves, just something worth raising an eyebrow at at maximum.
Raising an eyebrow, sure. But when the first half dozen comments in this thread are pushing the same ill-begotten narrative, that should raise the other eyebrow.
i agree i think
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You know, like an epidemiological breakout and spread? Given what we know about Covid-19 and its infection rate?
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You can generally trace the stacking mutations in these kinds virus since it occurs commonly enough. They’ll stack and you can kind of following the trajectory of how it evolves. Genealogy is a term I haven’t really considered to describe this but I suppose it works.
That’s how they were first able to confirm reinfection because the sequences were different across both infections.
Anyone who's talking shit about @bigbooppaul, knock it off. He's literally combatting liberalism by speaking up when he saw something a comrade said that was wrong. To say see comrades say incorrect things and say nothing is a form of liberalism.
Saying that, I had read about the Italy thing in the Tumori journal back in 2020. It was a scientific article and study that reported that anti-covid antibodies had been detected in the blood of Italian people some time before November 2019. I'm not a big science guy but it seemed legit, it was connected to an italian medical university and the study authors seemed legitimate. You seem to be knowledgeable, is Tumori a legitimate medical science journal?
Also, my bad about the Spanish claim. I should have done better reading about that, because yeah it doesnt seem as legitimate.
But overall, I dont think where it comes from matters as much as how to respond. Pandemics have been with us so long, I dont think we will be able to eliminate the chance of one this century. The best we can do is prepare and respond with justice. I had hoped to focus more on how to respond to covid rather than quibbling on its origin.
that's not combating liberalism by correcting a comrade that's just trying to dunk on someone.
Lol, my feelings aren't hurt and I also don't really care if I'm dunked on. Being corrected normally hurts and there's ways of doing it gently and ways of doing that dirtbag style.
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Thanks.