• Doubledee [comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    Is there anyone with an actually viable path in? McCarthy only got in because he agreed to let them do this embarrassing thing to him whenever they wanted and the guys who imposed that before are still seemingly able to do that. I dunno if JJ has a better shot or what, it kinda seems like you'd have to be unwell to even put your hat in the ring.

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      My take is nearly the same: You'd have to be very unwell to even put your hat in the ring.

      I really have no idea how they can choose a speaker. I don't see a path. The GOP dug their own grave.

      1. In theory the GOP could make a deal with the dems to appoint somebody "moderate". In reality - the chance of that happening is zero.

      2. In theory somebody could go McCarthy's route of making impossible concessions to get the speakership. I don't think that's possible at all. And even if it was - unless they are an abject idiot - they know going to get the shiv within months.

      3. In theory Jim Jordan could become speaker. But in reality - I think he'd go down in flames just like Scalise.

      4. In theory - I think they could get Trump to be some kind of special temporary speaker with a fancy title because Trump likes that shit. Special Interim Speaker? And they could have SIS challenge coins or whatever made so Trump could puff out his chest because he's important. They could fund Israel. But they'd do what Trump wanted on Ukraine which of course is not fund them. But even if Trump has speaker were possible - the moderates would be insane. They want Ukraine funded because it makes them seem sane and electable. Also Trump is crazy and he could force a government shutdown instead of stopping one. In any case - what happens when he leaves? They are right back in the soup again.

      I thought I had a #5 but I ran out of ideas.

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      Edit

      I'm watching MSNBC right now and the situation is far worse than I thought. They are totally dysfunctional.

      • RonPaulyShore [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        RE 4: they probably can just table bills with the speaker pro tempore right? like, i can't imagine this will prohibit them from sending israel oodles of cash.

        • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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          1 year ago

          I haven't actually read about the nitty gritty details about what they can do. Obviously - even if the law/rules didn't allow it - they could in theory work with Biden to create some sort of "emergency war funding" (quasi-)legal workaround. The real problem as I see it is that that a large percentage of the GOP house caucus is unhinged and delusional. With or without admitting it - they have internalized Trump's "strong and powerful" maxim to the point that's all that matters to them. They actually think that winning means you never, ever compromise with anyone, anytime, on anything.

          Legally speaking - sending Israel money must be a bill that goes through the house. But I'm sure that Biden's team is hard at work in panic mode creating a big lie that sounds "legal" enough in case house GOP dysfunction goes on weeks more or even longer. Biden's team will somehow find a way. Israel will get the money. But how exactly? I have absolutely no idea.