• a_blanqui_slate [none/use name, any]
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    4 years ago

    Wasn't there just a "free markets destroy traffic" post on here that ya'll were poo-pooing? Seem to be doing a pretty good job to me.

    • congressbaseballfan [she/her]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      Critical support for the free market in its quest to destroy traffic by destroying automobiles

  • volkvulture [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    What's even more wild about this incident is that these highways have been "retrofitted" recently to have all these lanes in the center that are designated "Express" toll ways

    These toll ways are usually 2 lanes or 1 lane and there is no real shoulder or place to exit for miles due to the "automatic" toll system

    Much of these toll roads are a result of "public-private" partnerships that literally just find newer ways to cheap out & charge for what once were free public thoroughfares

    This pile-up is confined to these hemmed-in middle toll lanes, it's just the "free" market destroying it self lol

    • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Can confirm, these toll roads are a nightmare to get into.

  • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I've driven down this highway a bunch and this area always has bad accidents and insane truck drivers that go 90mph. Texas brings out the worst in car culture.

    • garbology [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Texas brings out the worst in lots of other kinds of culture, too

      • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Our governor basically just likes to pass laws that overturn local laws (especially Austin) to own the libs in Austin despite living there.

  • Owl [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I don't understand. You all keep saying you like trains, which are just a bunch of vehicles joined together, but when people try to join all their cars together you say it's bad.

  • Mouhamed_McYggdrasil [they/them,any]
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    4 years ago

    I've got a theory that driving is just an inherently unsafe activity, and that some intrinsic features of our system of traffic laws and layouts will always lead to some crashes happen even if every vehicle is 100% obeying the law. This includes autonomous driving vehicles. I don't think they will ever be able to develop a program that will be able to drive to a safe enough standard for people to accept. At the beginning of the great automobile swindle the car manufacturers pulled on this country, there was quite a bit of outrage towards the dangerousicity of driving. To respond, the car companies waged an extensive propaganda campaign to redirect blame wherever possible ("Jay-walking", don't drive drunk, dont use your cellphone, etc. They'd have to run the same campaign to pass the blame off the autonomous driving system, and I just can't see that flying in this day and age.

    • Zo1db3rg [comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      All they have to do is show how many accidents are caused by simple basic human error, "distracted driving." They will just blame the driver and people will go with it because if there's one thing people love to do it's blame and hate on other people.

      • Mouhamed_McYggdrasil [they/them,any]
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        4 years ago

        All they have to do is show how many accidents are caused by simple basic human error, “distracted driving.” They will just blame the driver and people will go with it because if there’s one thing people love to do it’s blame and hate on other people.

        I don't think so. People are already so suspicious of technology. Remember when Google Glass rolled out, and they basically had to cancel it because people thought it was creepy?

    • regenerativedespair [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      Eh, self driving cars are already a thing. it's here to stay as long as the highway system is around. without major investment in an alternative to car/plane for commutes & long distance travel, self-driving cars will not just be accepted, they will be demanded. there is nothing more dreary to the driver than having to drive yourself to work or wherever fuck else, and people with money will insist they are insulated from that labor.

      • Mouhamed_McYggdrasil [they/them,any]
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        4 years ago

        They're really not though, the technology is still quite far away. Watch some of those "latest advances in technology" vids of autonomous cars, and they can't even drive around a parking lot without slamming on the breaks at random time and hitting curbs. Tesla & co and cut together video to make them seem perfect, but I've yet to see an objective analysis of them that that makes it seem anywhere near viable. The technology is great at identifying things, but driving requires more than indentifying things, it requires estimating quantities/qualities about unknowns, which tech like CNNs just can't do.

        IE, will there be an autonomous holocaust on halloween as the car's AI fails to identify people in costumes as people? I'm only half serious but I think that question will help lead you down the road of what I"m talking about.

        • regenerativedespair [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          there are certainly challenges, but I think it is also remarkable how well the systems work already. in our lifetimes, i definitely think autonomous cars will be a much more common thing over time, at least for those who have cars. and yes, there will be run-over children in costumes too, no doubt

  • hazefoley [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Used to be commute before I quit last month. I keep winning mike you fucking asshole!

      • hazefoley [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I've heard conflicting reports on the time it happened, but I legit could have been on that expressway

  • Elon_Musk [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Also injured were four officers, three of whom were involved in the crash as they were heading to work.

    Comrade winter!