Jesus christ, this number that determines whether we can rent, buy a car, or buy a house is only 30 years old? What the fuck?

  • cresspacito [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    AFAIK a version of Chinese "social credit" started being implemented recently after experimentation. Although it's basically the same as western credit systems but it seems to include crime and stuff which could be good? Also it seems that you can earn it back without access to capital, ie by just not doing crime anymore or contributing to your community. Maybe I'm remembering wrong or read a bad source or smth.

    I do remember arguing with someone on reddit who claimed that people had been stopped from buying train tickets for "lying" and it turned out they google translated a phrase that actually implied that had committed large-scale fraud lol

    • SteveHasBunker [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      That still sounds bad to me. If someone commits a crime there punishment should be handed down by a court and carried out, now by some system that follows you around and doesn’t let you buy movie tickets or whatever.

      The fact you can improve it by doing community service makes it sound better than the system we have in the States, but I’d still say it bad and dumb. A socialist nation should provide for its citizens so that you don’t have to have some weird system that bullies them into volunteer work, and social infrastructure should be available to all even if they’ve been a bit of a dickhead to people lately.

      • cresspacito [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        True. It's just funny how the spooky "social credit" that does exist is just a not as bad version of credit

    • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Also, the Chinese system is very importantly NOT opaque you can just go to your local courthouse and ask them what you need to do to raise it. Usually stuff like some community service or volunteer work.

      It was also used as an alternative to prison for low level offenses. So like shoplifting just dings your credit instead of getting you put in jail.

      Credit systems still suck, but if you're going to have one, at least have it controlled democratically and make it transparent and use it as an alternative to prison whenever you can.