Permanently Deleted
did you know that jewish people in nazi germany had a near 100% crime rate?
"the system we have of incarcerating, monitoring, and executing people on a mass scale? it's entirely just and its victims get what they deserve. anyway here's my take on what we can do to eliminate the real oppression in society:"
If everyone would just stop talking about this "identity" bullshit and conform to the worldview and sensibilities of white people, everything would be way better. Also, white supremacy is barely even a thing anymore, when do you ever see white people conflating their subjective experience with reality itself?
-- stupidpol, essentially
Not sure why OP left out the replies that had 6 times as many upvotes as them and rebuked them completely, but context is important so here it is
https://old.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/comments/jabpja/uk_young_white_workers_earn_less_than_almost_all/g8owdvl/
Not sure why you think holding water for reactionaries is cool. In your other post you made the case these dinguses are building class consciousness but they’re not until their class consciousness includes intersectionality. Otherwise they’re one of the millions and millions of white “socialist” opportunists who are in the game just long enough to get their hand out from the govt/capital and will drop all other poc at the drop of a hat when they get it.
Poc have a very clear reason and hundreds of years of examples to be wary of these types of people
This consciousness is fake and only exists for personal gain, the entire history of the us is these type of “socialists” dropping the ball as soon as some capitalist comes along and offers them some petty petit-bourgeois privilege. If they make the jump to class consciousness out of reactionary faux-consciousness great, but as long as they reject intersectionality they’re just traitors waiting to happen
I appreciate the nuanced explanation of this position you've provided, its more than I can say for certain other people. Let me think about it a while before I give a response.
Take your time, I highly recommend you read settlers for a more detailed account of the failures of reactionary white class consciousness in America. I know it’s a meme to say so but I think you’ll find it really illuminating and at the very least it’s a good account of the history America from a pov that isn’t built on capitalist apologia
I mention one such example else where in this thread here about how the iww failed to organize to combat or even denounce capital in the early 20th century when it had a similar class reductionist position
I'm not sure what you are saying here, but if you're implying the racist was replyed to with anything but laughter, you are mistaken. They received 4 replies and they were all calling them an asshole.
I don't think ignoring the rest of the replies is particularly fair to anyone here, but I also don't care enough to waste either of our time talking about it further.
If someone says something racist, and gets (ugh) 6x ratio'd by someone calling them out on it, i would consider that to be the overshadowing. Having said that, I can understand your point of view and dont see any point in going around in circles.
Anyone who is anti-intersectionality is reactionary or prone to being a useful idiot for reactionary forces. This has shown itself time and time again throughout white American history and modern stupidpol is the next line in that.
The iww refused to counter the govt on imperialism and defend marginalized workers, it said it had “one solution for all working class people, the abolishment of wage labor.” Bc it was aiming to capitulate to capital for higher wages for white workers and viewed alliances with poc as pragmatically strategic, that if they “didn’t ally with the negro the bosses would ally with the negro against [them].” And they got crushed by the govt and law enforcement bc that’s the ultimate fate of any half measure of worker faux-class consciousness like reactionary class reductionism
link? why would you post anti-communist propaganda without giving us an opprotunity to refute it? this shit is why we need downvotes
https://www.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/comments/jabpja/uk_young_white_workers_earn_less_than_almost_all/g8pcy6n/?context=10000
There are a lot of unflaired right wingers that inhabit that sub now and it's really starting to show.
Yes, it couldn't possibly be because the police and justice system are racist. Amazing stuff.
How does this person reconcile with the fact that many 3rd world (even war-torn) African nations have lower murder rates than the US?
